Name 5 mutants that can beat Flash w/ no PIS

*cant be multiversal

Flash can use full capacity but no bfr

no pis or cis is allowed

To beat a speedblitz, one either needs:

1. High end passive durability (so no shields, but pure 'always on' durability - this can also be something like intangibility) or

2. Extreme speed of your own.

Maybe even a combo of the two, so having intangibility, for example, plus extreme superspeed which allows you to 'activate' it before Flash lands a punch/speedsteals.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
To beat a speedblitz, one either needs:

1. High end passive durability (so no shields, but pure 'always on' durability - this can also be something like intangibility) or

2. Extreme speed of your own.

Maybe even a combo of the two, so having intangibility, for example, plus extreme superspeed which allows you to 'activate' it before Flash lands a punch/speedsteals.

heres the mutants i had in mind i THINk that could possibly win lol (ik its not 5 but still)

Franklin,Legion,Nate,Iceman,Magneto,Apocalypse,Vulcan,Sebastion Shaw,New Sun,Marquise of Death,Jim Jaspers,Mr M,Cable

Shaman Nate, Franklin

That's it.

Legion is multiversal so doesn't count

And how do they do against speedsteal?

Originally posted by MrMind
Shaman Nate, Franklin

That's it.

Legion is multiversal so doesn't count

lmao what you mean "thats it"

Darwin, Colossus, Elixir,
Jean Grey, Magneto, Iceman etc

Shaw and Bishop can absorb kinetic energy btw

Flash isn't Immune to Tp or TK..his 2-3 feats of resistance doesn't trump 20 feats of it working..especially in a Random

Shaw and Bishop both have limits.

Still not sure how that counters speed steal, however. Especially if he takes all their energy, so they aren't even able to think....

This goes for TP/TK people too.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
lmao what you mean "thats it"

Darwin, Colossus, Elixir,
Jean Grey, Magneto, Iceman etc

They'd get one shotted

Mutants are garbage

Flash solos entire xmen rosters on comicvine, the holiest of holy battle board according to you, if you are interested I'll send you links lmao

Thats BS

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Shaw and Bishop both have limits.

Still not sure how that counters speed steal, however. Especially if he takes all their energy, so they aren't even able to think....

This goes for TP/TK people too.

Hmmmmm tp... how fast is flash mind is

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Shaw and Bishop both have limits.

Still not sure how that counters speed steal, however. Especially if he takes all their energy, so they aren't even able to think....

This goes for TP/TK people too.

They don't counter, they'd die

The people Alberto listed would be dead before even moving a finger

How r any of mutants gonna tp when they are dead, speed of thoughts is infinity slower than speed of light

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Hmmmmm tp... how fast is flash mind is

Attosecond

Thats actually not true lmao

What are we supposed to take away from this other than that writer is absolutely retarded

Not to mention absolutely moot point as flash can travel millions times faster than light

A complete list of MU mutants that can beat Flash without PIS:
- Forgetmenot

Thus the problem in the OP has no answer.

Flash vs an 'average man':

....

So yeah, even if your mutant is 1,000 times faster than an average man....Flash would still whup them.

And here he is against a lightspeed attack. Note how he searches the entire crowd of ~500,000 people (iirc), finds the culprits, picks them up and throws them into GL's lightbeam:

...

He can create entire strategies in nanoseconds:

And most importantly - is faster than thought:

Light travels 0.03 centimeters in a picosecond. If the Lantern's blast was about to hit WW in a picosecond the blast must have been significantly FTL.

Originally posted by Magnon
Light travels 0.03 centimeters in a picosecond. If the Lantern's blast was about to hit WW in a picosecond the blast must have been significantly FTL.

It didn't LOOK like it was about to hit her when Flash threw the Martians in - maybe he was erring on the side of caution by giving himself 'only' a picosecond.

Or he was so fast, he didn't even need that picosecond to find the guys.