Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
https://www.legal-island.ie/articles/ire/case-law/2021/april/medical-council-v-dr.-gerard-waters-2021/Disgraced, unethical nutjob it appears. He is at present temporarily struck off the Doctors register, with a likelihood it will become permanent.
A prime Covidiot indeed, well identified Deano. mmm
He's a known nutjob over here so I'm not surprised at all.
How many of those flu deaths are people who only died WITH flu?
Are that retarded you don't know what respiratory diseases do? Did you know that most people who die from respiratory diseases die from secondary affects like bacterial pneumonia rather than from the viral infection itself?
Would they have still died from pneumonia if they never had the respiratory disease?
Originally posted by jaden_2.0
How many of those flu deaths are people who only died WITH flu?Are that retarded you don't know what respiratory diseases do? Did you know that most people who die from respiratory diseases die from secondary affects like bacterial pneumonia rather than from the viral infection itself?
Would they have still died from pneumonia if they never had the respiratory disease?
Sorry doctor
The point is still valid. I have a locksmith who works for us and his uncle had servere liver failure. He was in hospital on his last legs and he tested positive for covid. So guess what went on the death certificate. There are countless accounts from people of similar things happening. It's one big scam
Originally posted by DeanoAnd how do you or they know that Covid wasn't the thing that sent that person over the last hump?
Sorry doctorThe point is still valid. I have a locksmith who works for us and his uncle had servere liver failure. He was in hospital on his last legs and he tested positive for covid. So guess what went on the death certificate. There are countless accounts from people of similar things happening. It's one big scam
Or let me phrase this another way. " I have a locksmith who works for us and his uncle had servere liver failure. He was in hospital on his last legs and they found a knife wound in his back. So guess what went on the death certificate."
I'm pretty sure the death certificate would mention severe liver failure, it may not have been the final nail, but it would have been mentioned.
Just because COVID appears on death certificates doesn't mean it's the only thing they put on it. Besides, the reason they make these records is to show how infectious it is, not deadly.
Your locksmith might be dead, but the COVID he got is still around.
It could of been Covid that sent that person over the last hump. But so what? It wouldn't of been the primary cause and shouldn't be classed as a covid death.
Before Covid and when common sense prevailed, if someone you loved had cancer and was on there deathbed and they contracted influenza, and lets say it sent them over the last hump as you say. (This is probably quite common in winter with cancer patients. ) Three things im certain wouldn't happen.
1: It wouldn't go down as an influenza death
2: You certainly wouldn't start fearing the flu
3 And you wouldn't tell people your loved one died of the flu
Usually none of this would matter but these psychopaths are hell bent on keeping the entire planet locked down, and they are using Covid as an excuse to do it.
Lets just say im wrong. if our lovely leaders are trustworthy and genuine and do believe there is a virus, well if they are going to lockdown the planet and cripple the economy than they better make sure the deaths are accurate and not misleading. And therein lies the problem. Its not half as bad as they say it is.
Originally posted by Blakemore
I'm pretty sure the death certificate would mention severe liver failure, it may not have been the final nail, but it would have been mentioned.Just because COVID appears on death certificates doesn't mean it's the only thing they put on it. Besides, the reason they make these records is to show how infectious it is, not deadly.
Your locksmith might be dead, but the COVID he got is still around.
Liver failure was primary cause. NOT COVID. Its ok to mention covid as long as its not listed as primary cause. Its misleading and now he goes on the statistics as a covid death inflating up the numbers
You must be happy to be locked down
had the radio on in the car , and listened to an absolute brain dead idiot ,to put this in context I watched a pod cast not sure by who a while back but there was a specialist doctor saying he believed there will be a sharp rise in cases of auto immune and neurological problems due to the mRNA type vaccines
There was a news flash on the radio that said that doctors and scientists were concerned about the sharp world wide increase in neurological and auto immune problems and they were monitoring the situation carefully. The next bit made me burst out laughing and turn the radio off when the brainless moron then said ,scientists believe it was due to the consumption of highly processed foods
Originally posted by DeanoHow do you know it was listed as the primary cause?
Liver failure was primary cause. NOT COVID. Its ok to mention covid as long as its not listed as primary cause. Its misleading and now he goes on the statistics as a covid death inflating up the numbersYou must be happy to be locked down
had the radio on in the car , and listened to an absolute brain dead idiot ,to put this in context I watched a pod cast not sure by who a while back but there was a specialist doctor saying he believed there will be a sharp rise in cases of auto immune and neurological problems due to the mRNA type vaccines
There was a news flash on the radio that said that doctors and scientists were concerned about the sharp world wide increase in neurological and auto immune problems and they were monitoring the situation carefully. The next bit made me burst out laughing and turn the radio off when the brainless moron then said ,scientists believe it was due to the consumption of highly processed foods
Also, it's really ****ing detrimental to your credibility when you criticise the media for bringing on stupid people who scaremonger only to then use the same media as a source for the vaccine to cause neurological problems.
So you're anti-media unless it suits you? Why am I not surprised.
Originally posted by DeanoAre you still comparing Covid to the flu? I had hoped we would have at least gotten passed that silly point.
It could of been Covid that sent that person over the last hump. But so what? It wouldn't of been the primary cause and shouldn't be classed as a covid death.Before Covid and when common sense prevailed, if someone you loved had cancer and was on there deathbed and they contracted influenza, and lets say it sent them over the last hump as you say. (This is probably quite common in winter with cancer patients. ) Three things im certain wouldn't happen.
1: It wouldn't go down as an influenza death
2: You certainly wouldn't start fearing the flu
3 And you wouldn't tell people your loved one died of the fluUsually none of this would matter but these psychopaths are hell bent on keeping the entire planet locked down, and they are using Covid as an excuse to do it.
Lets just say im wrong. if our lovely leaders are trustworthy and genuine and do believe there is a virus, well if they are going to lockdown the planet and cripple the economy than they better make sure the deaths are accurate and not misleading. And therein lies the problem. Its not half as bad as they say it is.
Originally posted by Deano
Liver failure was primary cause. NOT COVID. Its ok to mention covid as long as its not listed as primary cause. Its misleading and now he goes on the statistics as a covid death inflating up the numbers
We've discussed this before. There simply isn't the resources to do post mortems on every person that dies, even outwith a pandemic. That's why the numbers are given as "within 28 days of a positive test". It's simply the most cost effective way of estimating deaths.
This is why there are comorbidities. This is why the people most likely to die after contracting covid already have health issues that vastly increase their risk. Would all the morbidly obese people or people with heart disease, hypertension, bronchitis, asbestosis, weakened immune systems etc have died when they did without contracting covid?
Originally posted by Deano
Prove what I've said is a conspiracy you fool. I'll wait because you can't. In the UK they do use the term 'died with covid' not 'of covid. Sorry you cant accept that. Cognitive dissonance is strong in you.Yup. You were duped.
The CDC has said from jump only 6% of the total deaths are from Covid only.
6% of 800,000 is 48,000 in 23 months.
That is less than the
12 month average of
29,000-49,000 flu deathThink I’m making it up?
Let’s see how many flu deaths there are in a 12 months. Shall we?
I am not repeating myself. Post off-topic in this thread again, and I will report you until you are banned. You have gotten two COVID threads closed with your bullshit. This one is not getting closed too, because you are a ****ing idiot.
Originally posted by Impediment
It doesn’t help one’s argument when they mash the report button a dozen times for supposed rule infractions and then turn around and openly member bash.Everyone needs to put their penises away and quit dick waving.
Debate like the adults you are.
The purpose of this thread is to discuss people who oppose COVID-19 remediation measures only to go on to contract COVID-19. It is not to dicuss COVID-19 in general, or to post COVID-19 misinformation or conspiracies. cdtm and Deano have gotten two COVID-19 threads closed with their combined antics. If they want to discuss something other than people who oppose COVID-19 remediation measures only to go on to contract COVID-19, then they can do it in their own thread.
Originally posted by Impediment
It doesn’t help one’s argument when they mash the report button a dozen times for supposed rule infractions and then turn around and openly member bash.Everyone needs to put their penises away and quit dick waving.
Debate like the adults you are.
false equivalenct as usual 👇