Count Dooku vs Ahsoka

Started by Rockydonovang13 pages

Originally posted by Galan007
Sure.

It's not like it takes Palpatine a long time to put his saber away, after all:

So that's likely what he did before the actual pod-hurling began.

Palpatine's overall superiority has been confirmed in pretty much every noteworthy source in canon:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=17122410#post17122410

The disparity between he and Yoda wasn't vast(in both sabers and the Force), but it was enough to say that Palpatine was > across the board.

And an alternative explanation, one that aligns with sources which say sids was disarmed was provided by gillard when he said "at tier 9, the fighters are close enough that circumstances like enviroment, come into play". Yoda may well have disarmed sids, but it wasn't by virtue of being better, merely comparable along with favorable circumstances.

Yoda didnt disarm him tho.

So the logical explanation is that Sidious just put his saber away.

Canon sources say Yoda disarmed him.

That...whatever the hell it is just says that Sidious is good enough to beat Yoda....which he is.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Just need Disney to retcon Mace beating Sidious being legitimate now. Might as well if theyre saying outright Sidious > Yoda.
I think it the Updated Ultimate Guide it mentions something about that but it's kinda cryptic. I think is says something along the lines that Windu seemingly had an advantage or some sh!t.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Canon sources say Yoda disarmed him.
You mean the original RotS script and junior novel?

Yeah, those were effectively retconned by GoA for reasons I already addressed thoroughly. The most recent information is always the most canon information. What's not computing?

Originally posted by Galan007
You mean the original RotS script and junior novel?

Yeah, those were effectively retconned by GoA for reasons I already addressed thoroughly. The most recent information is always the most canon information. What's not computing?

Because that "canon" info you are spewing about don't prove anything other than Sidious is capable of beating Yoda.

It proves that Yoda did NOT disarm Palpatine, which retcons the script and junior novel.

It also proves that Palpatine can indeed beat Yoda in a saber duel.

I am simply "spewing" the facts, because you keep incessantly trying to ignore them. 🙂

Originally posted by Galan007
It proves that Yoda did NOT disarm Palpatine, which retcons the script and junior novel.

It also proves that Palpatine can indeed beat Yoda in a saber duel.

I am simply "spewing" the facts, because you keep incessantly trying to ignore them. 🙂

That "canon" source you keep clinging to Galaxy of Adventures regularly contradicts the films look at the Dooku vs Yoda fight.

That sh!t is funny.

As mentioned: GoA is officially licensed by Disney/Lucasfilm, and features various adaptions from the films themselves(as well as some extra content.) Much like the novels and comic book adaptations, if it adds depth/context that does not contradict the films, then that part is canon. If it contradicts something from the films, however, then that part is non-canon.

In this case, there is NO contradiction, because the film itself never depicted Yoda "disarming" Palpatine. Therefore it is perfectly canon whether you like it or not.

Again: what's no computing here?

😆

Is this dude it trying to act like 2005 sources override 2019 sources lmao? Does he even know how canon works?

Originally posted by Galan007
As mentioned: GoA is officially licensed by Disney/Lucasfilm, and features various adaptions from the films themselves(as well as some extra content.) Much like the novels and comic book adaptations, if it adds depth/context that does not contradict the films, then that part is canon. If it contradicts something from the films, however, then that part is non-canon.

In this case, there is NO contradiction, because the film itself never depicted Yoda "disarming" Palpatine. Therefore it is perfectly canon whether you like it or not.

Again: what's no computing here?

No, the film never depicted Yoda disarming Sidious the novels and screenplay did. LOL.

I should ask you what's not computing! 😂

Originally posted by juggernaut74
No, the film never depicted Yoda disarming Sidious the novels and screenplay did. LOL.

I should ask you what's not computing! 😂

THOSE 2005 SOURCES WERE RETCONNED BY GOA, YOU ABSOLUTE DUMBASS.

Seriously, how stupid are you?

Originally posted by Sheev
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Is this dude it trying to act like 2005 sources override 2019 sources lmao? Does he even know how canon works?

Is there any canon sources saying Yoda did not disarm Sidious? Or are we to assume Sidious just said screw it I don't need my saber.

Galan already humored you with a breakdown here:

Originally posted by Galan007
Yes it does. We've already been through this...

In the RotS script and junior novel, Yoda supposedly disarmed Palpatine before he began hurling Senate pods.

But as you can clearly see in this screencap:

Palpatine still has his saber in hand just before he started throwing the pods.

Therefore, Yoda obviously did not disarm him prior to that, which effectively retcons the script/junior novel.

Stop trolling.

Originally posted by Sheev
THOSE 2005 SOURCES WERE RETCONNED BY GOA, YOU ABSOLUTE DUMBASS.

Seriously, how stupid are you?

That "canon" source don't prove anything other than Sidious is capable of beating Yoda.

Originally posted by Sheev
Galan already humored you with a breakdown here:

Stop trolling.

That GoA isn't the most reliable source. 😆

Compare the Yoda vs Dooku from the actual movie to that once. That sh!t is funny.

Your feefees don't matter.

The particular GOA scene being mentioned here DOESNT contradict the movie, so it is canon. Period.

Youre just too stupid to grasp how canon works, or too ignorant to accept when you're wrong.

Ya, I agree. It's definitely canon.

Originally posted by Sheev
Your feefees don't matter.

The particular GOA scene being mentioned here DOESNT contradict the movie, so it is canon. Period.

Youre just too stupid to grasp how canon works, or too ignorant to accept when you're wrong.

That kiddy show cartoon is inconsistent to the proper canon.

I can't believe you guys think that proves Yoda didn't disarm Sidious.

Now if you show me a direct source saying that Yoda DID NOT disarm Sidious than I will concede but I doubt you can do that without using dubious "canon" sources.

BTW chill out with the remarks.

Originally posted by Eli Vanto
Ya, I agree. It's definitely canon.
I never said it wasn't it just don't jive with the main canon, the movies.