Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Irrelevant. Phoenix is not "made up of the suns" which you straight up lied about
Phoenix eats suns. Ergo, Superman can get a boost directly from Phoenix.
Unless you can prove she converts energy in such a way that it's completely indistinguishable from the solar energy she absorbed.
I like Supes, but the WF thing still doesn’t sell me on much. There are plenty of characters with the power/tools to create entities/places/etc., but what are their durability feats is the question. One non-canon example of my point is that Axel Asher can create powerful new beings like Thor-El, but can barely take a street-level punch.
And the collateral damage from that WF feat is also questionable. If someone pushes a button that sets of an a-bomb, does that mean they have atomic power? If someone takes a sledge hammer to that console, and that happens to trigger massive destruction, is the person wielding the hammer now considered to have capability of causing that same level of destruction?
It almost reminds of Breaking Bad when that meth head was crushed by that ATM machine, and everyone gave Jesse all the props for “dropping” it on him
Originally posted by Quick Freeze
I like Supes, but the WF thing still doesn’t sell me on much. There are plenty of characters with the power/tools to create entities/places/etc., but what are their durability feats is the question. One non-canon example of my point is that Axel Asher can create powerful new beings like Thor-El, but can barely take a street-level punch.And the collateral damage from that WF feat is also questionable. If someone pushes a button that sets of an a-bomb, does that mean they have atomic power? If someone takes a sledge hammer to that console, and that happens to trigger massive destruction, is the person wielding the hammer now considered to have capability of causing that same level of destruction?
It almost reminds of Breaking Bad when that meth head was crushed by that ATM machine, and everyone gave Jesse all the props for “dropping” it on him
Well, he's brother to Anti-Monitor, so we can scale from there.
The fact all three brothers formed a gestalt being implies some level of parity, otherwise there would be no point to the union.
Originally posted by Quick FreezeWell, a weakened WF survived having a planet being hurled at him by Perpetua from like 40 universes away.
I like Supes, but the WF thing still doesn’t sell me on much. There are plenty of characters with the power/tools to create entities/places/etc., but what are their durability feats is the question. One non-canon example of my point is that Axel Asher can create powerful new beings like Thor-El, but can barely take a street-level punch.And the collateral damage from that WF feat is also questionable. If someone pushes a button that sets of an a-bomb, does that mean they have atomic power? If someone takes a sledge hammer to that console, and that happens to trigger massive destruction, is the person wielding the hammer now considered to have capability of causing that same level of destruction?
It almost reminds of Breaking Bad when that meth head was crushed by that ATM machine, and everyone gave Jesse all the props for “dropping” it on him
That's impressive on its own, without taking into consideration the tremendous speeds that planet must have reached to travel that distance in such a short amount of time, and how durable said planet must have been to withstand the trip without getting atomized.
WF wasn't depowered when Superman punched him. 🙂
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Well, a weakened WF survived having a planet being hurled at him by Perpetua from like 40 universes away.That's impressive on its own, without taking into consideration the tremendous speeds that planet must have reached to travel that distance in such a short amount of time, and how durable said planet must have been to withstand the trip without getting atomized.
WF wasn't depowered when Superman punched him. 🙂
The planet hurling... is that an Abstract showing? Also, I dont think fhe writer put mathematics to that showing like you all tend to do. It was just a planet. Nothing more, nothing less.
Originally posted by cdtm
Well, he's brother to Anti-Monitor, so we can scale from there.The fact all three brothers formed a gestalt being implies some level of parity, otherwise there would be no point to the union.
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Originally posted by Adam Grimes
WF was depowered, and weakened to the point he could barely lift his arms. And it was a planet. Traveling a lot of universeS in an instant.And it didn't burst after the first 10, so apparently it was pretty durable if you ask me. Lmao
All in all pretty weak counter tbh, Carv.
Doesn't he "bat" the planet with his mighty hammer, destroying it? Thus, eliminating a direct hit?
Originally posted by TheHulksterJust because he didn't just stand there letting it hit him freely doesn't make it not a direct hit.
Doesn't he "bat" the planet with his mighty hammer, destroying it? Thus, eliminating a direct hit?
And yeah, his 'mighty hammer'. That he was too weakened to swing hard enough to even create a portal. Lol
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Just because he didn't just stand there letting it hit him freely doesn't make it not a direct hit.
Lol at this quite oxymoronic statement.
[/B]And yeah, his 'mighty hammer'. That he was too weakened to swing hard enough to even create a portal. Lol [/B]
Not enough force to create a portal doesn't mean not enough force to shatter a planet.
Originally posted by TheHulkster
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So you want to lowball then?
Originally posted by TheHulkster
What about him having enough strength to kill Morbius?
Could be brotherly talk, all could have been weakened. Or he didn’t have enough power to do what he normally does. The facts are, he was weakened by a huge degree and he was no longer in the 6th dimension in a more fragile state and yet he still survived a direct impact from a planet that was hurled universes away and reached them in seconds.
The energy from the planet even as great as it was, was only enough to create a portal that’s tells you what kind of energies power he has to work with in order create a universe.
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Are you telling me he didn't actually do it? 😮
Do you have scans of him struggling to lift his arms?