How would Superman do against a Phoenix host

Started by TheHulkster13 pages

Originally posted by Galan007
Well AM survived the destruction of the pre-crisis continuum, and its subsequent reboot into a singular universe, you realize?:
https://i.imgur.com/3XwlNsc.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/FqvW0KX.jpg

Isn't it more like he is reborn?

https://www.dccomics.com/characters/anti-monitor

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Isn't it more like he is reborn?

https://www.dccomics.com/characters/anti-monitor

I’m not sure but I think if anytime they die they are reborn back into the 6th dimension. Same guy.

Originally posted by cdtm
Well, he's brother to Anti-Monitor, so we can scale from there.

The fact all three brothers formed a gestalt being implies some level of parity, otherwise there would be no point to the union.

But that’s his brother not him. We’re supposed to just look at the feats of the characters we’re talking about. How many X-Men have non-powered siblings?

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Well, a weakened WF survived having a planet being hurled at him by Perpetua from like 40 universes away.

That's impressive on its own, without taking into consideration the tremendous speeds that planet must have reached to travel that distance in such a short amount of time, and how durable said planet must have been to withstand the trip without getting atomized.

WF wasn't depowered when Superman punched him. 🙂

This point is much better taken. Gonna read through everyone else’s analysis of it as it seems like it’s his most impressive if not his only durability feat.

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The issue in question is JL(2018) #37.

That isn't even the worst showing. An amped WF who was combined with his brothers were hurt and separated by a car explosion...

https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/53712358/SmartSelect_20200513-155537_Chrome.jpg.html

https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/53712360/SmartSelect_20200513-155819_Chrome.jpg.html

Good luck on that planet toss.

Originally posted by Quick Freeze
But that’s his brother not him. We’re supposed to just look at the feats of the characters we’re talking about. How many X-Men have non-powered siblings?

This point is much better taken. Gonna read through everyone else’s analysis of it as it seems like it’s his most impressive if not his only durability feat.

Xmen are highly variable though. The brothers were implied to be equals, with different functions.

And Monitor is also a brother. That's two brothers with proven stats.

So he may certainly be the odd man out here, but there isn't really any reason to think this.

Also, can someone show me that Perpetua was a multiverse or Universe away when she threw the planet? Scans contradicts this. Would love to see proof.

Surprise surprise, Carver hasn't "seen" something.

About as credible as Daredevil saying he hasn't seen the sky.

Why is this thread still going on?
Superman is astronomically stronger and faster than any phoenix host. The phoenix host will be a statue to Superman. Superman stomps hard.

Originally posted by Quick Freeze
But that’s his brother not him. We’re supposed to just look at the feats of the characters we’re talking about. How many X-Men have non-powered siblings?

This point is much better taken. Gonna read through everyone else’s analysis of it as it seems like it’s his most impressive if not his only durability feat.


But this guy isn’t unpowered he creates multiverses with his own power. He older, seems more powerful and actually made AM cry for his mom.

Originally posted by carver9
That isn't even the worst showing. An amped WF who was combined with his brothers were hurt and separated by a car explosion...

https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/53712358/SmartSelect_20200513-155537_Chrome.jpg.html

https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/53712360/SmartSelect_20200513-155819_Chrome.jpg.html

Good luck on that planet toss.

AM had already turned on his brothers and was absorbing them. They wanted to separate and the impact from the car was the final straw.

Originally posted by Diesldude
AM had already turned on his brothers and was absorbing them. They wanted to separate and the impact from the car was the final straw.

Wtf... show me where you got this from.

Originally posted by carver9
Wtf... show me where you got this from.

Read the comic.

Originally posted by cdtm
Read the comic.

If you're not going to add anything to the conversation then you do not need to respond. Trying not to report you.

I just wanna be clear here. I agree Superman takes any Phoenix host for the majority. I just have problems with that singular WF feat making him like Skyfather/Abstract level, given that WF is a relatively new character that appears to depend on a hammer and anvil to achieve his most impressive creation/destruction feats, and Superman has the second most appearances of any comic character after Batman.

The incident seems circumstantial to me, and for knocking WF out to mean what ppl here are saying it means, I’m still not satisfied with the vetting of that character. (Granted I don’t read every single comic/thread, but I was following Leo’s critiquing and remember thinking he wasn’t getting enough valid/reliable counterarguments and now he’s gone).

I have DC Universe App so I have no excuse not to do my hw tonight and read #37. I gladly accept Superman having the majority against most, if not all, Marvel High Heralds. I just try to bring balance to the force.

Originally posted by carver9
If you're not going to add anything to the conversation then you do not need to respond. Trying not to report you.

Report away.

You asked. If you read the comic, you'd know the details.

Why are you arguing about feats from a comic you haven't even read?

Originally posted by carver9
If you're not going to add anything to the conversation then you do not need to respond. Trying not to report you.

Don't be so shitty. A report isn't some threat you swing around like a hammer.

Originally posted by carver9
Wtf... show me where you got this from.
😂 read your own scan. It’s right there. Smh. Proof not only don’t you read comics but you don’t even read the scans you’re posting.

Originally posted by Diesldude
😂 read your own scan. It’s right there. Smh. Proof not only don’t you read comics but you don’t even read the scans you’re posting.

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Originally posted by Quick Freeze
I just wanna be clear here. I agree Superman takes any Phoenix host for the majority. I just have problems with that singular WF feat making him like Skyfather/Abstract level, given that WF is a relatively new character that appears to depend on a hammer and anvil to achieve his most impressive creation/destruction feats, and Superman has the second most appearances of any comic character after Batman.

The incident seems circumstantial to me, and for knocking WF out to mean what ppl here are saying it means, I’m still not satisfied with the vetting of that character. (Granted I don’t read every single comic/thread, but I was following Leo’s critiquing and remember thinking he wasn’t getting enough valid/reliable counterarguments and now he’s gone).

I have DC Universe App so I have no excuse not to do my hw tonight and read #37. I gladly accept Superman having the majority against most, if not all, Marvel High Heralds. I just try to bring balance to the force.


WF has his feats but Superman has killed it recently.

Aside from the wf multiversal punch(cue the normal butthurt responses, not you) but you’ll see.

He destroyed a planet by just jumping off it while it nearly out of energy because if he didn’t WF would have replaced the multiverse.

He tracked zeta beams to locate Alice. Zeta beams exist everywhere in the universe at the same time, it’s like having the entire universe in a thought. Why? Because he had to find a girl named Alice.

He beat the flash in a race to get Luthor to donate and extra billion to charity.

He broke chains that are used to tow stars to different galaxies.

He defeated an army of robots, a few of them were giving all dc earth problems and he defeated an army of them.

Heck Even DR Manhattan wasn’t sure who would win in a fight between him and Superman.

When it’s a job for Superman he’s gonna win.