The murder of Ahmaud Arbery/All three perpetrators found guilty

I have no issues with someone describing an intruder who is a thin white male as a thin white male.

Originally posted by Surtur
I have no issues with someone describing an intruder who is a thin white male as a thin white male.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
and if it was "thin white man" and the cops raided the home of a thin white guy with no criminal record or probable cause, you'd be totally cool with it. fix your mask, it's slipping off.

also, trespassing does not equal home intrusion as it was a construction site.

nice try as always, surt. 👆

Arbery had no criminal record?

But I've already said I don't think the McMichaels should have gone after him even if he was a thief so...

Originally posted by Surtur
Arbery had no criminal record?

it would seem not, though I'm certainly open to evidence to the contrary

Either way I said they shouldn't have gone after him even if he was an actual thief.

I'm still open to actual evidence of racism though.

so we're back to "defend my strawman assertion that I've attributed to you or I win"

Okay so you've conceded it wasn't racially motivated. Good.

I had already assumed that reasonable doubt existed due to the lack of a hate crime charge, several pages ago. any other deflectons/stunts/tricks in your bag?

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
I had already assumed that reasonable doubt existed due to the lack of a hate crime charge, several pages ago. any other deflectons/stunts/tricks in your bag?

Not a trick, I'm glad you agree it wasn't racially motivated.

that's not what I said. saying that reasonable doubt in law equates factual innocence is the same as arguing that OJ was factually innocent of killing his wife.

uh oh, logic and reason, your enemies. deflect, surt! deflect!

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
that's not what I said. saying that reasonable doubt in law equates factual innocence is the same as arguing that OJ was factually innocent of killing his wife.

uh oh, logic and reason, your enemies. deflect, surt! deflect!

So if you don't agree it wasn't racially motivated post proof it was...using logic and reason.

I agree that the prosecution felt they didn't have enough evidence to warrant a hate crime charge. but you go ahead and put words in my mouth while avoiding my point, with much courage and intellectual honesty 👆

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
that's not what I said. saying that reasonable doubt in law equates factual innocence is the same as arguing that OJ was factually innocent of killing his wife.

uh oh, logic and reason, your enemies. deflect, surt! deflect!

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
I agree that the prosecution felt they didn't have enough evidence to warrant a hate crime charge. but you go ahead and put words in my mouth while avoiding my point, with much courage and intellectual honesty 👆

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
I agree that the prosecution felt they didn't have enough evidence to warrant a hate crime charge. but you go ahead and put words in my mouth while avoiding my point, with much courage and intellectual honesty 👆

In other words you have no proof it was racially motivated, but you still think it was. I gotcha.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
😆 very good. :Up:

^This guy is a good friend, lying blindly to make Bash feel better.

Originally posted by Surtur
I gotcha.

yeah you sure got me, in your mind 🤪

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
yeah you sure got me, in your mind 🤪

You feel this was racist despite nothing pointing to it being racist.

I laughed out loud.

Originally posted by Surtur
You feel this was racist despite nothing pointing to it being racist.

I suspect racial bias by McMichaels

Originally posted by Surtur
I laughed out loud.

^^reaction formation: juvenile coping tactic #4. "I'm laughing right now guys. so not mad. this somehow proves me right"

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
I suspect racial bias by McMichaels

^^reaction formation: juvenile coping tactic #4. "I'm laughing right now guys. so not mad. this somehow proves me right"

Be honest: if everything else was the same, but Arbery was white and the McMichaels were black would you suspect racism?

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Your problem is that anything short of being a hood-wearing Klansman with an official KKK membership certificate does not qualify as racism.

Other than him being black, what do you have to suggest racism was a factor?