Supreme and Gladiator vs. Superman

Originally posted by -Pr-
That's pretty damn cool.

That's 'mean Supreme':

Originally posted by Galan007
If we're going high-end, then the strongest version of Supreme (aka. "mean" Supreme) is strong enough to beat the dog shit out of Suprema, who has lifted universe weight. In fact, it took every single version of Supreme there is just to contain/imprison mean Supreme.

Where speed is concerned, even the weaker versions of Supreme(like Moore's version) are FTL, and have a couple nanosecond reaction feats, iirc.

Don't know if the Alex Ross version as in the OP is him though.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
The reason I'm acting dickish is because it's the 9999th time we've had this conversation. So I'm starting to believe you have some hidden agenda here, which reminds me of the posters I'm mentioned.

It's a comic written by Loeb; it's not rocket science. There's no need to overanalyze it.

But fine, let's do it anyway.

Stewart:

1) We know that Stewart can tag and even hurt Superman with the ring's energy, if he really wants to.

2) He doesn't try to attack Superman in either encounter. He only briefly assists Major Force, who can't fly on his own.

3) Once Superman starts giving them orders, Stewart is the first to listen.

4) Hell, Stewart was the first to actually save the duo from hordes of supervillains.

Black Lightning:

1) Much like Stewart, he never tries to harm the duo.

2) Gets batgrappled by Batman. Does he break free? No, he waits for Bats to take care of others... and gets batgrappled again and incapacitated.

3) He doesn't question Superman's orders when Major Force is leaking energy, either.

Unlike Starfire, who was protesting.

Even Captain Atom needed some convincing from the Batman to help.

I'll be the first to admit that my meds can make me forgetful, but I honestly don't remember you and I going over the intricacies of Public Enemies that often if at all.

My only agenda is wondering why you're being such a ****. I didn't even say I disagreed with everything you said.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
That's 'mean Supreme':

Don't know if the Alex Ross version as in the OP is him though.

What's the difference?

Originally posted by -Pr-
I'll be the first to admit that my meds can make me forgetful, but I honestly don't remember you and I going over the intricacies of Public Enemies that often if at all.

My only agenda is wondering why you're being such a ****. I didn't even say I disagreed with everything you said.

What's the difference?

Go read Alan Moore's Supreme.

Originally posted by -Pr-
I'll be the first to admit that my meds can make me forgetful, but I honestly don't remember you and I going over the intricacies of Public Enemies that often if at all.

My only agenda is wondering why you're being such a ****. I didn't even say I disagreed with everything you said.

What's the difference?

Same different any time Alan Moore gets his hands on something.

I don't know anything about pre-moore, but I did read Alan Moore's run, and I bet they have nothing in common but a name. He went all conceptual, had multiple versions of Supreme and Darious Dax co-existing from cancelled comics, met a floating head of Jack Kirby as some type of comic god..

Anyways, is Galan saying that Supreme he mentioned beats Superman?

Or is he saying he's close enough in a one on one where Glads tips the scales, or what?

Originally posted by cdtm
Not really relevant considering Darksaint was responding to your question.

"Ozy catch's bullets. Has Iron Fist ever caught a bullet?"

"Why yes. Yes he has."

"Well.. So has Ozy!"

The problem is that catching a bullet is identical to catching a bullet. Yet, destroying worlds (plural) collaterally while fighting an opponent is different enough from directly acting on a single planet (so your analogy is poor).
Thus, DarkSaint doesn't answer my question but rather tosses out something somewhat related.

So I did what he failed to do, that being providing something close to what he provided.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
That's 'mean Supreme':

Don't know if the Alex Ross version as in the OP is him though.

Doesn't Mean Supreme face Gladiator?

Originally posted by -Pr-
I'll be the first to admit that my meds can make me forgetful, but I honestly don't remember you and I going over the intricacies of Public Enemies that often if at all.

My only agenda is wondering why you're being such a ****. I didn't even say I disagreed with everything you said.

My apologies, then.

I admit I'm a little allergic to the subject.

Originally posted by cdtm
Anyways, is Galan saying that Supreme he mentioned beats Superman?

Or is he saying he's close enough in a one on one where Glads tips the scales, or what?

h1 asked how strong/fast Supreme is, so that was my response.

No Supreme is Superman level.

Originally posted by cdtm
Same different any time Alan Moore gets his hands on something.

I don't know anything about pre-moore, but I did read Alan Moore's run, and I bet they have nothing in common but a name. He went all conceptual, had multiple versions of Supreme and Darious Dax co-existing from cancelled comics, met a floating head of Jack Kirby as some type of comic god..

So is there more than one version?

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
My apologies, then.

I admit I'm a little allergic to the subject.

Okay. I apologise if I was overly snappish. I just really don't like the kind of people that do have agendas and won't just be open about their shit.

Originally posted by -Pr-
So is there more than one version?

The urge to close this for spite is getting less and less powerful with each passing post.

Originally posted by -Pr-
The urge to close this for spite is getting less and less powerful with each passing post.

Nothing changed, Superman one shots. 👆

Seems like a lot of stuff happened after Moore's run. No wonder I don't remember Mean Supreme beating up Suprema, that came post Moore.

😂 People in the 21st century still think Supes can beat Gladiator?

It TOOK a decade for Supes to finally destroy a planet something Gladiator's been doing for years.

Gladiator can move planets and collapse stars:

Superman isn't CONSISTENTLY portrayed at that level ^, idk how many times i gotta tell dudes that

Superman was juggling planets well before that hack Chris Claremont ripped him off.

When I see Superman doing on that panel i'll take that into consideration

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
😂 People in the 21st century still think Supes can beat Gladiator?

It TOOK a decade for Supes to finally destroy a planet something Gladiator's been doing for years.

Gladiator can move planets and collapse stars:

Superman isn't CONSISTENTLY portrayed at that level ^, idk how many times i gotta tell dudes that

Mon-El pushed a neutron star light years, far more impressive then busting planets. This was in the post crisid era, when Superman was kicking his ass.