Superman, Majestic and Omni-Man vs Sentry, Hyperion and Blue Marvel

Pretty much.

My point is that combat feats can and will be misleading. Lower tiers would suddenly jump up in formidability if we relied on combat showings.

Conversely, higher tiers would be written down just to make lower tiers look good/not explode into pink mist

When Saint mentions Batman period I dont take him serious. Its just a troll attempt at trying to dispute an argument. If Thanos shows up and one punch kill the entjre Avengers team with ease, it is a display of power. Using nothing but cheese fts, Drax should be well above any Thor but we saw how a fight between them went and it counts. It shows who is more powerful. Fights>>>>>>Cheese fts but cheese fts does count. 🙂

Originally posted by carver9
When Saint mentions Batman period I dont take him serious. Its just a troll attempt at trying to dispute an argument. If Thanos shows up and one punch kill the entjre Avengers team with ease, it is a display of power. Using nothing but cheese fts, Drax should be well above any Thor but we saw how a fight between them went and it counts. It shows who is more powerful. Fights>>>>>>Cheese fts but cheese fts does count. 🙂

exactly. Zoom with his sage powers casually one shotted the JL in combat B-but Has ZoOm OnE ShOtTed A planet lIKE sUpES BY LEaping!!!

Looks like people did miss the forest for the trees even after DS explained multiple times.

Originally posted by carver9
When Saint mentions Batman period I dont take him serious. Its just a troll attempt at trying to dispute an argument. If Thanos shows up and one punch kill the entjre Avengers team with ease, it is a display of power. Using nothing but cheese fts, Drax should be well above any Thor but we saw how a fight between them went and it counts. It shows who is more powerful. Fights>>>>>>Cheese fts but cheese fts does count. 🙂

So literally no counter. Zero. And your stance actually goes against forum rules.

Fine. What about Spider-Man then?

Colossus with P5 amp and Cytorrak amp was unable to put him down.

Juggernaut was unable to.

A Mindless One armed with THE Ultimate Nullifier was unable to put him down.

In turn, he has defeated Masterson Thor, and Firelord. Based on combat feats, he's a herald, as per Carv.

Albert, you're just a troll. Continue herping and derping.

Originally posted by carver9
When Saint mentions Batman period I dont take him serious. Its just a troll attempt at trying to dispute an argument. If Thanos shows up and one punch kill the entjre Avengers team with ease, it is a display of power. Using nothing but cheese fts, Drax should be well above any Thor but we saw how a fight between them went and it counts. It shows who is more powerful. Fights>>>>>>Cheese fts but cheese fts does count. 🙂

Slippery slope. Context matters above all.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Slippery slope. Context matters above all.

Who wins, Thanos vs Surfer and why? Surfer energy output fts, hell, even his durability fts, versatility, etc...is better than Thanos. Who do you give the edge to?

Originally posted by carver9
Who wins, Thanos vs Surfer and why? Surfer energy output fts, hell, even his durability fts, versatility, etc...is better than Thanos. Who do you give the edge to?

Surfer tanked a big bang, Thanos didn't, that's the difference. durability and healing factor are two different things
That's off topic though, Surfer having better durability feats isn't up for dispute

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Surfer tanked a big bang, Thanos didn't, that's the difference. durability and healing factor are two different things

Tanked black holes. Withstood a beating from 2 Galactus level beings. Versatility, no contest. Speed, no contest. Energy output is the one debatable thing but we are talking about someone who create suns and black holes. Ill wait for Sin post.

We have the in character rule, Carver. How do you not understand after 16 years here?

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Surfer tanked a big bang, Thanos didn't, that's the difference. durability and healing factor are two different things
That's off topic though, Surfer having better durability feats isn't up for dispute

Anytime you want to try and debate it, let’s go.

I named a single feat from Surfer that dwarfs anything Thanos ever withstood that's quantifiable. a Big Bang while unharmed

Originally posted by carver9
Tanked black holes. Withstood a beating from 2 Galactus level beings. Versatility, no contest. Speed, no contest. Energy output is the one debatable thing but we are talking about someone who create suns and black holes. Ill wait for Sin post.

Well those two Galactus level beings is a good showing.

In combat, Spider-Man ranked the Ultimate Nullifier, which Galactus level beings fear.

So Spider-Man is more durable than Galactus and Surfer, based on combat and not cheese feats 🙂

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
I named a single feat from Surfer that dwarfs anything Thanos ever withstood that's quantifiable. a Big Bang while unharmed

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
I named a single feat from Surfer that dwarfs anything Thanos ever withstood that's quantifiable. a Big Bang while unharmed

I’ll bet you’re lying about this.

Titan, post the scans of that instance and enlighten me as to why its "quantifiable"

Originally posted by Diesldude
I’ll bet you’re lying about this.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
He actually survived a big bang