The death of George Floyd/Chauvin guilty

Originally posted by Raptor22
the officers act is probably whats responsible for the actual charge.

The riots definitely seem 2 be a major factor in why it happened so fast.

"Earlier on Friday, Minnesota Governor Tim Walz called for an end to the violent protests, which have included arson, looting and the burning down of a police precinct, while promising a reckoning with the racial inequities behind the unrest."

“None of us can live in a society where roving bands go unchecked and do what they want to, ruin property,” Walz said. “We have to get back to that point of what caused this all to happen and start working on that.”

"Responding to a reporter’s question about why the officers were not arrested sooner, Freeman stressed that charges in similar cases would typically take nine months to a year.

“This is by far the fastest we’ve ever charged a police officer,” said Freeman. “We entrust our police officers to use a certain amounts of force to do their job, to protect us. They commit a criminal act if they use that force unreasonably"

The only way to stop this kind of civil unrest is literally to start gunning down the people. You can't stop it even if you make promises, concessions, etc.

Well, they could stop it if the Prosecutor gets a Grand Jury to indict nearly instantly and the charges to be first degree murder with a try at the death penalty (it won't work).

And then change the charges, later. That might take the wind from right under their sails as there is literally nothing to 'protest' at that point.

Originally posted by Surtur
That the riots caused this.

It's not a fact, that's just your opinion right?

Did I say its factual? But I do think it would be ignorant to pretend theres no way that was a factor.

Also you said Another baseless claim? What was my first?

Originally posted by dadudemon
The only way to stop this kind of civil unrest is literally to start gunning down the people. You can't stop it even if you make promises, concessions, etc.

Well, they could stop it if the Prosecutor gets a Grand Jury to indict nearly instantly and the charges to be first degree murder with a try at the death penalty (it won't work).

And then change the charges, later. That might take the wind from right under their sails as there is literally nothing to 'protest' at that point.

gun them down as a last resort.

give them a chance to surrender peacefully.

if they don't? well, play stupid games get stupid prizes

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
So, no actual proof then that he was only arrested because of rioting. Yep. That's what I thought.

Im sorry are we not allowed to make any statements here without concrete proof?

Originally posted by Raptor22
the officers act is probably whats responsible for the actual charge.

The riots definitely seem 2 be a major factor in why it happened so fast.

"Earlier on Friday, Minnesota Governor Tim Walz called for an end to the violent protests, which have included arson, looting and the burning down of a police precinct, while promising a reckoning with the racial inequities behind the unrest."

“None of us can live in a society where roving bands go unchecked and do what they want to, ruin property,” Walz said. “We have to get back to that point of what caused this all to happen and start working on that.”

"Responding to a reporter’s question about why the officers were not arrested sooner, Freeman stressed that charges in similar cases would typically take nine months to a year.

“This is by far the fastest we’ve ever charged a police officer,” said Freeman. “We entrust our police officers to use a certain amounts of force to do their job, to protect us. They commit a criminal act if they use that force unreasonably"

"Seems" I see. it's just your opinion. Ok.

Originally posted by Surtur
So we have no proof the riots caused this, just peoples opinions that it might of or probably did.

And that is all that needs to be said. No 10 page debate, not gonna happen.

There is no evidence. Lets move on from pretending like there is 👆

Oh, I have no problem with that but a certain someone else might continue to argue that "the riots worked her derp!"

best not to say riots worked unless we know for sure, why encourage animals to behave this way more often?

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Oh, I have no problem with that but a certain someone else might continue to argue that "the riots worked her derp!"

Originally posted by Silent Master
"Seems" I see. it's just your opinion. Ok.

Originally posted by ares834
Crediting the riot seems silly and unfounded. This was big news (at least it was in Minnesota) well before the riots started.

So you think peaceful protest would have got this guy charged just as fast? Despite history showcasing the opposite.

Thinking the angry riots had no influence at all is pretty naeive tbh.

Originally posted by Surtur
best not to say riots worked unless we know for sure, why encourage animals to behave this way more often?

Exactly. That's the exact message it sends to people.

Originally posted by Raptor22
and u were registered on this site on May 27th, 2005

Congrats on learning to read.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
So you think peaceful protest would have got this guy charged just as fast? Despite history showcasing the opposite.

Thinking the angry riots had no influence at all is pretty naeive tbh.

Thing is the cops got fired before shit got burnt down and firing the cops doesn't usually happen quickly either they tend to get put on leave.

So nah, I'd refrain from crediting thugs rioting and burning, but you do you bro 👆

Originally posted by Surtur
best not to say riots worked unless we know for sure, why encourage animals to behave this way more often?

Thats a fair point. But was my opinion (based on the previous history of cases like this) encouraging anyone here to riot?

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Thats a fair point. But was my opinion (based on the previous history of cases like this) encouraging anyone here to riot?

No it wasn't doing that, but it certainly seemed to be sending the message rioting works.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Congrats on learning to read.

Originally posted by Surtur
Thing is the cops got fired before shit got burnt down and firing the cops doesn't usually happen quickly either they tend to get put on leave.

So nah, I'd refrain from crediting thugs rioting and burning, but you do you bro 👆

Again fair point about the firing.

But why you guys acting triggered that the riots might have had an impact? Riots were getting bad and clearly would have got much worse he the arrest been made.

Originally posted by Raptor22
right back at ya

Now you just need to learn to be witty.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Again fair point about the firing.

But why you guys acting triggered that the riots might have had an impact? Riots were getting bad and clearly would have got much worse he the arrest been made.

As I said: cuz these dumb thugs will go "gee it worked, we should do it some more".

So I wish folk would drop this narrative, the thugs aren't smart enough to know it's wrong.

Originally posted by Surtur
As I said: cuz these dumb thugs will go "gee it worked, we should do it some more".

So I wish folk would drop this narrative, the thugs aren't smart enough to know it's wrong.

Yeah but honestly the narrative here should be that this stops cops acting thuggish to helpless civilians.

So I agree lets not make this about the riots 👆