Supposed Transphobic J.K Rowling Comments

Originally posted by dadudemon
Oooor, alternatively, it would be incredibly awkward for rednecks to tell each other they look good or dress well because they are insecure. I don't think I'm that good-looking but being fit makes you look amazingly handsome in a nation where 60%-80% of adults are overweight or obese. This is also the advice I tell any young man struggling to get a date: dress well/hygiene, get your fatass into great shape, and stop being so negative.

I understand how male bonding works. I understand how male insecurities work. Instead of me incorrectly interpreting their clearly playful jests as insults, I properly recognize them as just spoken insecurities.

This is why it's fine to be a transgender in Oklahoma. Pretty much no one will bother you unless you're close with them. And if someone does, there will be a pile of people to rage and beat down the bigot.

And why are they insecure? Because those sorts of expressions are not permitted under their social role.

Originally posted by dadudemon
This is the 'real-world' interpretation of two straight men insulting each other over clearly "not bad" things. Does anyone REALLY think my feelings are hurt for telling me I look good (by jokingly accusing me of being metrosexual) for wearing an ironed, fitted, shirt from Express? How fragile does one have to be to think this is a genuine insult? It's just males bonding with back-handed compliments.

And, yes, I feel more comfortable around males who are relaxed enough to light-heartedly insult me. It's different if it comes from a place of malice and hatred and most people are emotionally intelligent enough to understand the difference between these two statements:

"Look at you walking around in your fancy clothes and perfect hair. It took you 10 minutes to do that hair, didn't it? Do I need to hid Joe from you when he bends over?"

and

"I wish you'd come out of the closet. I'm disgusted with you pretending to be straight. I get sick thinking about you spending alone time with Joe and I."

Clearly, both are insults. Clearly, one is light-hearted and the other comes from a place of malice. Adam_Poe thinks all insults are the second type and doesn't understand that the first type can actually be part of genuine male-bonding and brings men closer together.

If any woman wishes to transition to a man, she (soon to be he) needs to understand this male-bonding dynamic. And if their feelings are too sensitive, they could fail to bond and miss out on great opportunities to grow and mature as a man. Some of the best laughs come from well-thought-out insults with "your mates." I've been there, even laughing at myself, so hard my abs hurt and tears are running down our faces. It's among the best things in laugh is to have a good laugh with your mates. Knowing when to stop or if someone isn't feeling the insults is also part of social maturity.

And that dynamic exists, because of the set of expectations that are assigned to men on the basis of their sex. They are not permitted to express their affections directly or overtly lest they be considered gay. So they have to express them indirectly or couch them in competitive behaviors or insults. Because they occupy a gender role that does not permit them to express themselves freely without judgement or having their gender or sexuality questioned or policed.

Originally posted by Astner
We all love H.P. Lovecraft's works, and he was a massive racist.

Not me. Lovecraft had soem great ideas, but I've always found his execution to be wanting.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
I am just point out that your post, while well-meaning, is sort of patronizing. As if transgender people are in some sort of social prison that you are just visiting to offer your condolences. You are a prisoner too, you are just so used to it, that you no longer see the bars.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
And that dynamic exists, because of the set of expectations that are assigned to men on the basis of their sex. They are not permitted to express their affections directly or overtly lest they be considered gay. So they have to express them indirectly or couch them in competitive behaviors or insults. Because they occupy a gender role that does not permit them to express themselves freely without judgement or having their gender or sexuality questioned or policed.

So we've come full circle. Now you understand why it's definitely okay to be a transgender in a place like Oklahoma and there'd be an army of SJWs that'd stand up for you if anyone dared utter any transphobic bullshit.

Originally posted by dadudemon
This is the 'real-world' interpretation of two straight men insulting each other over clearly "not bad" things. Does anyone REALLY think my feelings are hurt for telling me I look good (by jokingly accusing me of being metrosexual) for wearing an ironed, fitted, shirt from Express? How fragile does one have to be to think this is a genuine insult? It's just males bonding with back-handed compliments.

And, yes, I feel more comfortable around males who are relaxed enough to light-heartedly insult me. It's different if it comes from a place of malice and hatred and most people are emotionally intelligent enough to understand the difference between these two statements:

"Look at you walking around in your fancy clothes and perfect hair. It took you 10 minutes to do that hair, didn't it? Do I need to hid Joe from you when he bends over?"

and

"I wish you'd come out of the closet. I'm disgusted with you pretending to be straight. I get sick thinking about you spending alone time with Joe and I."

Clearly, both are insults. Clearly, one is light-hearted and the other comes from a place of malice. Adam_Poe thinks all insults are the second type and doesn't understand that the first type can actually be part of genuine male-bonding and brings men closer together.

If any woman wishes to transition to a man, she (soon to be he) needs to understand this male-bonding dynamic. And if their feelings are too sensitive, they could fail to bond and miss out on great opportunities to grow and mature as a man. Some of the best laughs come from well-thought-out insults with "your mates." I've been there, even laughing at myself, so hard my abs hurt and tears are running down our faces. It's among the best things in laugh is to have a good laugh with your mates. Knowing when to stop or if someone isn't feeling the insults is also part of social maturity.

Knowing when to stop is important, or knowing if the guy doesn't enjoy that type of play. And it's not like it's a constant thing: Most interactions aren't ribbing. It's just fun to do it at appropriate times.

I also tell my friends I love them, and are there for their emotional breakdowns. Just because we're not cuddling, doesn't mean we're afraid of being vulnerable around each other.

I definitely hate the "adult men must look like Kevin James in King of Queens or else they're gay" too. I dress plainly, but I do work out. Not to body shame anyone, but exercise is a good thing.

Originally posted by Scribble
No worries, but yeah I'd go with 'she' as a preference when possible. 'They' is just a bit vague for me but again, it doesn't offend me either, and it has its uses.

Sadly, Persona 4 for the PS2 seems to be super rare here, it's going for like £70?! I'm currently playing through Sekiro, then I'm going to play Dark Souls III, but I'll let you know what I think of P5 when I play it 👆 I also have Nier: Automata to play, which looks great.

If you do go back for P4, I'd highly recommend getting Persona 4: Golden, rather than the original PS2 version. There's so much more content, including quality of life changes that make the experience feel like it was the "true" game. Even some of the voice actors got changed. It is, unfortunately, only available on Steam(20$) or the Vita, so I understand if that has to go on the backburner.

P5 is incredible. And you're a Soulsborne fan too!? Are you as pumped for the Demon's Souls remake as I am? This was literally my boner when it was announced.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
I am just point out that your post, while well-meaning, is sort of patronizing. As if transgender people are in some sort of social prison that you are just visiting to offer your condolences. You are a prisoner too, you are just so used to it, that you no longer see the bars.

I guess I'm disagreeing on the "not seeing the prison bars" thing. Yes, Gender is a performance. We've done it since childhood, so it's difficult to separate our natural tendencies from learned behavior. Awareness of these constructs doesn't mean you'll necessarily hate them though. We shouldn't be expected to rib each other, but I can also genuinely enjoy it with certain people. My joking when a friend violates a norm is me mocking the norm, not them. It's why I only do that with men/women I know, or at least in situations where my intent is obvious. Maybe my social group is atypical. If I don't know someone, I don't know where they are mentally with all this stuff. It could reinforce negative behavior/emotions when they were just breaking free of it for all I know.

Originally posted by dadudemon

Based.

Originally posted by StyleTime
I guess I'm disagreeing on the "not seeing the prison bars" thing. Yes, Gender is a performance. We've done it since childhood, so it's difficult to separate our natural tendencies from learned behavior. Awareness of these constructs doesn't mean you'll necessarily hate them though. We shouldn't be expected to rib each other, but I can also genuinely enjoy it with certain people. My joking when a friend violates a norm is me mocking the norm, not them. It's why I only do that with men/women I know, or at least in situations where my intent is obvious. Maybe my social group is atypical. If I don't know someone, I don't know where they are mentally with all this stuff. It could reinforce negative behavior/emotions when they were just breaking free of it for all I know.

A guy I dated once asked me what is my favorite color. I told him it is blue. He asked why it is blue. I told him I did not know, because that calls for an understanding of the operation of my own mind that I do not have, nor do I think anyone has. How do I know that the appeal of blue to me naturally arises from my innate desires, and not because I have been socialized from birth to believe that blue is for boys, and internalized that socialization, and identified with it, because I am male. The point being that comfortability with those constructs does not make them any less imposed. Being comfortable in jail does not mean you are not in jail.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
A guy I dated once asked me what is my favorite color. I told him it is blue. He asked why it is blue. I told him I did not know, because that calls for an understanding of the operation of my own mind that I do not have, nor do I think anyone has. How do I know that the appeal of blue to me naturally arises from my innate desires, and not because I have been socialized from birth to believe that blue is for boys, and internalized that socialization, and identified with it, because I am male. The point being that comfortability with those constructs does not make them any less imposed. Being comfortable in jail does not mean you are not in jail.

Very true. Which is why the fight for gender and sexual liberation is one that is beneficial to the vast majority of people. Being comfortable with the limited options you are given, does not mean that you wouldn't be happier and more fulfilled in a a freer society where you had more acceptable options.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
A guy I dated once asked me what is my favorite color. I told him it is blue. He asked why it is blue. I told him I did not know, because that calls for an understanding of the operation of my own mind that I do not have, nor do I think anyone has. How do I know that the appeal of blue to me naturally arises from my innate desires, and not because I have been socialized from birth to believe that blue is for boys, and internalized that socialization, and identified with it, because I am male. The point being that comfortability with those constructs does not make them any less imposed. Being comfortable in jail does not mean you are not in jail.

Originally posted by Artol
👆

Very true. Which is why the fight for gender and sexual liberation is one that is beneficial to the vast majority of people. Being comfortable with the limited options you are given, does not mean that you wouldn't be happier and more fulfilled in a a freer society where you had more acceptable options.

Clearly her ex f*cking hates dirty TERF's:

Originally posted by Surtur
Clearly her ex f*cking hates dirty TERF's:

I don't get it.

I don't comprehend who is what in this.

Who did what to whom and what relationship to each have with each other?

Seriously, this gossip shit is not my cup of tea. I just can't bring myself to give a shit.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I don't get it.

I don't comprehend who is what in this.

Who did what to whom and what relationship to each have with each other?

Seriously, this gossip shit is not my cup of tea. I just can't bring myself to give a shit.

Originally posted by StyleTime
P5 is incredible. And you're a Soulsborne fan too!? Are you as pumped for the Demon's Souls remake as I am? This was literally my boner when it was announced.

Oh well, in the meantime I may as well get my PS3 cracked out again and play the original

Originally posted by Scribble
Short version: Rowling disclosed that she was abused by her first husband; the Sun ran a story on it; the TRAs celebrated. So the 'virtuous' ones ended up clapping and cheering for domestic abuse.

That makes a whole lot more sense, now.

Also, despicable.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I don't get it.

I don't comprehend who is what in this.

Who did what to whom and what relationship to each have with each other?

Seriously, this gossip shit is not my cup of tea. I just can't bring myself to give a shit.

It's not really gossip at this point. What happened was JK Rowling disclosed she was abused by her first husband. The Sun, lacking good judgement, decided to go track down and interview the guy. There he says that she is lying about being continuously abused, but that he did slap her once and that he doesn't regret it.

I don't know what caused him to slap her. Nor can I explain why he thought it was a good idea to admit he is not sorry in the current atmosphere.

Blaire White weighing in like a boss, as usual

YouTube video

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
A guy I dated once asked me what is my favorite color. I told him it is blue. He asked why it is blue. I told him I did not know, because that calls for an understanding of the operation of my own mind that I do not have, nor do I think anyone has. How do I know that the appeal of blue to me naturally arises from my innate desires, and not because I have been socialized from birth to believe that blue is for boys, and internalized that socialization, and identified with it, because I am male. The point being that comfortability with those constructs does not make them any less imposed. Being comfortable in jail does not mean you are not in jail.

I hate orange.

Pretty sure no one's socialized to feel about orange. 🙂

Could be I secretly hate Oranges and Orange juice..

Originally posted by Scribble
Blaire White weighing in like a boss, as usual

YouTube video

Holy f*ck, this is brilliant. Everyone should support people like Blaire.

No nonsense, logical, and to the point.

She also nails the problem I see for all "woke" causes: white knights need to STFU.

Also, she's cute. awesome