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From Trump's 08/08/2024 Mar-a-Lago news conference:

At one point, Trump claimed others on his team used to call for Hillary Clinton’s imprisonment, saying he never wanted that for the former first lady.

“I was very protective of her,” he said. “I think my people understand it. They used to say,’ Lock her up, lock her up.’ And I’d say, ‘Just relax, please, folks.’" - snip

“Kamala Harris’s father is Jamaican American, and she went to a historically Black college,” prompted a reporter, referring to Harris’s attendance at Howard University. “How is she only recently deciding to be Black?”

“You’ll have to ask her that question because she’s the one that said it. I didn’t say it,” Trump said. “But I’ve known her a long time, I actually contributed to her campaign a long time ago, because I was a developer—I contributed to lots of campaigns, to Democrats, Republicans; some were liberal, some were conservative, but you’ll have to ask her about that. -snip

😂

Trump really does live in imagination land.

I like kamala. She's old but she wasn't born during WW2 like our previous choices.

so younger person is better.

"I'm very intelligent"

Originally posted by Robtard
From Trump's 08/08/2024 Mar-a-Lago news conference:

At one point, Trump claimed others on his team used to call for Hillary Clinton’s imprisonment, saying he never wanted that for the former first lady.

“I was very protective of her,” he said. “I think my people understand it. They used to say,’ Lock her up, lock her up.’ And I’d say, ‘Just relax, please, folks.’" - snip

“Kamala Harris’s father is Jamaican American, and she went to a historically Black college,” prompted a reporter, referring to Harris’s attendance at Howard University. “How is she only recently deciding to be Black?”

“You’ll have to ask her that question because she’s the one that said it. I didn’t say it,” Trump said. “But I’ve known her a long time, I actually contributed to her campaign a long time ago, because I was a developer—I contributed to lots of campaigns, to Democrats, Republicans; some were liberal, some were conservative, but you’ll have to ask her about that. -snip

😂

Trump really does live in imagination land.

Trump contributed to Kamala politically in the past...

Am I wrong, is he trying to take the high road here? I have noticed a difference in tactics since Kamala took over the campaign. He's trying to praise her a bit: I think he knows insulting women hasn't gone well for him in the past with moderates.

The race thing just slipped out of his mouth, and he's been trying to fix it without appearing weak to his base, but overall trying to avoid insulting her. (Which is the trap liberals really hope he'll fall into). Walz is a much easier target. I was hoping for Shapiro myself.

Is this site finally dying? I often get some "host error," if the page loads at all... it often takes a long time.

I wanted Kelly. :/

Originally posted by Robtard
What where they chanting?

"Kamala, Kamala you can’t hide! We won’t vote for genocide."

What is the point of chanting against Kamala? Trump would be much worse for the Palestinians.

Originally posted by truejedi
What is the point of chanting against Kamala? Trump would be much worse for the Palestinians.

Sure, but she has to sell herself as well. Her entire campaign can't be "But Trump!". Otherwise Biden could have done that.

As for the point, now is the time to pressure her to make changes to their middle east policy. Pro-Palestine protestors won't just blindly support her and hope for the best.

Originally posted by truejedi
Trump contributed to Kamala politically in the past...

Am I wrong, is he trying to take the high road here? I have noticed a difference in tactics since Kamala took over the campaign. He's trying to praise her a bit: I think he knows insulting women hasn't gone well for him in the past with moderates.

The race thing just slipped out of his mouth, and he's been trying to fix it without appearing weak to his base, but overall trying to avoid insulting her. (Which is the trap liberals really hope he'll fall into). Walz is a much easier target. I was hoping for Shapiro myself.

Trump's been nigh non-stop attacking Kamala's intelligence and her racial identity.

Just a few days ago Trump made up some bogus story of how he was in a helicopter with former San Francisco Mayor Willy Brown and the helicopter was having emergency landing issues, Willy Brown started telling him "how horrible Kamala is". Willy Brown says he was never in this helicopter and has never spoken ill of Harris to Trump.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
"Kamala, Kamala you can’t hide! We won’t vote for genocide."

Yeah, they're being morons there. I get their anger, but see the bigger picture. They're going to be FAR more upset with Trump's approach to Israel and Palestine.

To Harris' credit, in her next rally she did seemingly acknowledge her response was ill thought and addressed that the war needs to stop.

Originally posted by Robtard
Yeah, they're being morons there. I get their anger, but see the bigger picture. They're going to be FAR more upset with Trump's approach to Israel and Palestine.

Addressed above. She can't just hide behind "well Trump will be worse." It's been bad enough under Biden and they want change.

Originally posted by Robtard
To Harris' credit, in her next rally she did seemingly acknowledge her response was ill thought and addressed that the war needs to stop.

Well that's good. But they're going to put on the pressure. She has been part of the Biden admin, which has mostly been terrible on this issue (just as all U.S. governments have tbf).

So the better argument to make for her would be you can't win a U.S. election without AIPAC's backing. So you have to vote her in first and hold her accountable after. But on the flip side how do you hold her accountable when you've just voted her in for 4 years? Normie's only have their vote to make change, nothing else.

Palestine is not going to be a deciding factor in the election. It only matters to 3% of American voters. People in chronically-online spaces have an outsized idea of its importance.

Both Jamaal Bowman and Cori Bush ran on the Palestine issue, and the leftists who pretend to care about it, did not show up to vote for them.

Not only does this demonstrate that the people for whom this is a deciding issue are not a reliable voting block, but that domestic issues are the biggest deciding factor for most Americans, not something another country is doing halfway around the world.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Addressed above. She can't just hide behind "well Trump will be worse." It's been bad enough under Biden and they want change.

Well that's good. But they're going to put on the pressure. She has been part of the Biden admin, which has mostly been terrible on this issue (just as all U.S. governments have tbf).

So the better argument to make for her would be you can't win a U.S. election without AIPAC's backing. So you have to vote her in first and hold her accountable after. But on the flip side how do you hold her accountable when you've just voted her in for 4 years? Normie's only have their vote to make change, nothing else.

I don't see it as "hiding", it's just an unpleasant reality. As unhappy as the Palestinian supporters are with Biden, Trump would literally tell Netanyahu "end the war", which would be Nethanyahu killing even more civilians and covering it up.

Their pressure would be better served helping her beat Trump and then turning the screws on her admin if she doesn't do anything different once in office, as we know what Trump will do for sure.

Well, well, well, guess who liked (still likes?) to dress up in drag and look the naughty little blonde.

Now we know why Trump picked Vance for VP despite his clear lack of experience.

Conservatives hate that they love drag.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Palestine is not going to be a deciding factor in the election. It only matters to 3% of American voters. People in chronically-online spaces have an outsized idea of its importance.

Both Jamaal Bowman and Cori Bush ran on the Palestine issue, and the leftists who pretend to care about it, did not show up to vote for them.

Not only does this demonstrate that the people for whom this is a deciding issue are not a reliable voting block, but that domestic issues are the biggest deciding factor for most Americans, not something another country is doing halfway around the world.

3% ? Wow you guys are shitty.

It's all well and good to say they care more about domestic issues rather than what's happening half way around the world, except that it's your tax payer money funding what's going on there, which could instead go towards say healthcare.

I think it's more to do with AIPAC's money though funding election campaigns than people just not choosing to show up.

Originally posted by Robtard
I don't see it as "hiding", it's just an unpleasant reality. As unhappy as the Palestinian supporters are with Biden, Trump would literally tell Netanyahu "end the war", which would be Nethanyahu killing even more civilians and covering it up.

Okay, but you can't really expect Protestors to just accept that and not pressure her for something better than Israeli's kill Gazan's slower instead of faster?

Originally posted by Robtard
Their pressure would be better served helping her beat Trump and then turning the screws on her admin if she doesn't do anything different once in office, as we know what Trump will do for sure.

Voters have no leverage once she's in though. They know there's no changing Trump to a better position. How will voters turn the screws on her admin after?

RFK is taking votes from Trump, but Kamala can still prevent Jill Stein and Cornell West taking votes from Dems. Hence why now is the time to put pressure on her.

Anyhow this was more about the way she reacted not what's the best tactical course for Palestine voters. That was her first real test of groups not supporting her, and the result was she needs to start acting more Presidential, and less butthurt like Trump would.