The GDF Septic Tank (Official Off Topic)

Originally posted by cdtm
Glad there's less talk of nuclear family destruction. That was always a BS argument.

We have single parent homes and mother run households now. There is literally nothing in the US government system forcing a nuclear family anymore.

But what is the alternative to mother and father parential care anyways? Having a "village" raise the kids? What does that even mean, just letting the kids fend for themselves in the street and giving them occasional charity?

"It takes a village to raise a child" is an African proverb that means that an entire community of people must provide for and interact positively with children for those children to experience and grow in a safe and healthy environment. -The Magic of the Internet

The reason the Right flipped out when H Clinton published a book with that title is because of the "African" aspect.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
That will be true because Blacks are still a minority.

But I agree this need to peg people with a label for what they believe in is BS. If you want to name yourself, then fair enough, although those tend to be the more narrow minded because they've restricted themselves to the label they've pegged themselves as.

Originally posted by Robtard
"It takes a village to raise a child" is an African proverb that means that an entire community of people must provide for and interact positively with children for those children to experience and grow in a safe and healthy environment. -The Magic of the Internet

The reason the Right flipped out when H Clinton published a book with that title is because of the "African" aspect.

I see. Did not know the origins of the proverb, just filed it with "Do unto others" and similar wisdom.

I still don't understand what it really means to destroy a nuclear family, or what a replacement would look like in practical terms.

If it simply means no patriarchal dominance, I guess that's not so bad.

If it means no pressure for fathers or mothers to directly raise a kid, that just seems confusing. I mean, someone has to raise children. Takes a lot of time, effort, and money. Plus the interpersonal aspects, values, needing a role model, all of it.

To just say "Destroy the nuclear family" is meaningless, since all a nuclear family is, is two parents raising their kids.

You're acting like it's a horse designed by committee, when really it's saying the community influences children, not just their parents.

Originally posted by Blakemore
You're acting like it's a horse designed by committee, when really it's saying the community influences children, not just their parents.

A community isn't really something you can plan to actively take a hand in raising your kid either though.

I mean, ideally every neighbor has the best interest of every kid at heart, and acts appropriately. But that's just expected social courtesy, not a blueprint for raising a family.

And a community isn't at odds with a nuclear family either. Families live in communities, any family system will do that.

Originally posted by cdtm
A community isn't really something you can plan to actively take a hand in raising your kid either though.

I mean, ideally every neighbor has the best interest of every kid at heart, and acts appropriately. But that's just expected social courtesy, not a blueprint for raising a family.

And a community isn't at odds with a nuclear family either. Families live in communities, any family system will do that.

Originally posted by cdtm
I see. Did not know the origins of the proverb, just filed it with "Do unto others" and similar wisdom.

I still don't understand what it really means to destroy a nuclear family, or what a replacement would look like in practical terms.

If it simply means no patriarchal dominance, I guess that's not so bad.

If it means no pressure for fathers or mothers to directly raise a kid, that just seems confusing. I mean, someone has to raise children. Takes a lot of time, effort, and money. Plus the interpersonal aspects, values, needing a role model, all of it.

To just say "Destroy the nuclear family" is meaningless, since all a nuclear family is, is two parents raising their kids.

No, I'm pretty sure it's a proverb about communities coming together to help and ultimately benefit the whole which in turns benefits the individuals.

It's not about lazy or absentee parenting. You're stupid.

Originally posted by Blakemore
Exactly, that's why the quote has nothing to do with that and you simply misinterpret it that way.

What about the idea of destroying a nuclear family though?

It's a pretty common priority from the old activist days. Black Lives Matter even had it on their webpage until recently, deciding it didn't fit their mission.

Of course the right uses it to shout "They want to destroy father influence and create single mother homes!"

Which I don't necessarily believe. But I sure can't say what it means, because virtually anyone who talks about it neglects to go into details, and talks about other related grievances instead.

It's just one of those things on the list to do. The practical applications, that seems a mystery.

Originally posted by cdtm
What about the idea of destroying a nuclear family though?

It's a pretty common priority from the old activist days. Black Lives Matter even had it on their webpage until recently, deciding it didn't fit their mission.

Of course the right uses it to shout "They want to destroy father influence and create single mother homes!"

Which I don't necessarily believe. But I sure can't say what it [b]means, because virtually anyone who talks about it neglects to go into details, and talks about other related grievances instead.

It's just one of those things on the list to do. The practical applications, that seems a mystery. [/B]

You really are dumb.

Originally posted by Blakemore
The old people want to keep the "nuclear family."

You really are dumb.

But what is a nuclear family? Two parents raising a kid.

So you get rid of that and replace it with what, exactly?

Originally posted by cdtm
But what is a nuclear family? Two parents raising a kid.

So you get rid of that and replace it with what, exactly?

Burn! 😝

Bottom guy has killed more people than the other 5 put together.

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
Bottom guy has killed more people than the other 5 put together.

Yeah, if only he just let them kill him instead.

But he never sex offended on a minor.

Originally posted by cdtm
Yeah, if only he just let them kill him instead.

But he never sex offended on a minor.

Not sure what that has to do with anything. The police don't have the right to go around killing anyone with a criminal record.

Rittenhouse is on trial here for killing people. The others were not on trial for murder. So the comparison is moot and not relevant at all to whether or not he should be found guilty.

Originally posted by cdtm
Yeah, if only he just let them kill him instead.

But he never sex offended on a minor.

Originally posted by cdtm
Yeah, if only he just let them kill him instead.

But he never sex offended on a minor.

This might come as a surprise to you. But you can think that none of them are "heroes". You can go through life without idolising undeserving people and you're allowed to change your mind on how you view people based on their actions too.

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
This might come as a surprise to you. But you can think that none of them are "heroes". You can go through life without idolising undeserving people and you're allowed to change your mind on how you view people based on their actions too.

Who said I idolized anyone? Rob's the one who called him a murderer, for the crime of running away, being ambushed, and fighting back.

I normally have sympathy for a death, but I can't understand what they were thinking hunting him down and engaging him at all. If it was me, I'd be running in the opppsite direction as fast as I can.

Originally posted by cdtm
Who said I idolized anyone? Rob's the one who called him a murderer, for the crime of running away, being ambushed, and fighting back.

I normally have sympathy for a death, but I can't understand what they were thinking hunting him down and engaging him at all. If it was me, I'd be running in the opppsite direction as fast as I can.

Kyle is a friggin' hero, not a murderer. Self defense is not murder.

Originally posted by cdtm
Who said I idolized anyone? Rob's the one who called him a murderer, for the crime of running away, being ambushed, and fighting back.

I normally have sympathy for a death, but I can't understand what they were thinking hunting him down and engaging him at all. If it was me, I'd be running in the opppsite direction as fast as I can.