Nazi Shoots Woman Trying to Steal His Nazi Flag - She Lives, He's in Jail

Started by Old Man Whirly!6 pages

Originally posted by Scribble
So do you think communist flags, such as the hammer and sickle, should be allowed to be flown in the US?
It depends if they are attached to a movement. Wearing Che for fashion with John Lennon glasses certainly doesn't conjure the same image as the "proud boys".

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
It depends if they are attached to a movement. Wearing Che for fashion with John Lennon glasses certainly doesn't conjure the same image as the "proud boys".
I'm not talking about Che accessories. I specifically said flags, and the topic of this thread is about a man who flew a Nazi flag, which you said should be illegal. If that flag were a hammer and sickle communist flag instead, should that, like the Nazi flag, be illegal?

Originally posted by Scribble
I'm not talking about Che accessories. I specifically said flags, and the topic of this thread is about a man who flew a Nazi flag, which you said should be illegal. If that flag were a hammer and sickle communist flag instead, should that, like the Nazi flag, be illegal?
Che often has the hammer and sickle or star of the revolution with him. You are talking about two different things in the end the CCCP was about perestroika and Gorbachev... it still had that flag when the USSR died a natural death and had embraced capitalism. The Nazi Swastika was only brought down by the end of a military action and only ever has had one meaning since Nazi's adopted it.. False equivalency, one has many meanings, the other just one.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Che often has the hammer and sickle or star of the revolution with him. You are talking about two different things in the end the CCCP was about perestroika and Gorbachev... it still had that flag when the USSR died a natural death and had embraced capitalism. The Nazi Swastika was only brought down by the end of a military action and only ever has had one meaning since Nazi's adopted it.. False equivalency, one has many meanings, the other just one.
I'm going to be Paxman here: should a Nazi flag be illegal, but not a communist flag?

Answer the question.

LoL @pooty bringing up Captain America again because he still stupidly thinks that Steve Rogers, if he were actually real, would be on his side lol.

When someone has to bring fictional characters into the conversation that's an obvious sign that they've lost the argument.

I'm surprised pooty and other leftists haven't already claimed that illegal immigration is totally ok simply because Superman (the greatest superhero of all-time, at least imo) is an illegal alien lol.

Originally posted by Scribble
I'm going to be Paxman here: should a Nazi flag be illegal, but not a communist flag?

Answer the question.

I have.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
I have.
No, you haven't. This is a yes or no question, and you have repeatedly failed to answer it.

Should a Nazi flag be illegal, but not a communist flag?

A simple 'yes' or 'no', to clarify your position.

He doesn't have the balls to just come out and simply say "yes, the hammer and sickle is totally ok" even though we all know he actually approves of it. I mean, ffs, he idolizes Karl Marx of all people lol.

So yeah, of course he thinks the communist hammer and sickle is perfectly acceptable.

I want to give him the chance to clarify. If he dodges it again, I have enough to know the answer anyway.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Che often has the hammer and sickle or star of the revolution with him. You are talking about two different things in the end the CCCP was about perestroika and Gorbachev... it still had that flag when the USSR died a natural death and had embraced capitalism. The Nazi Swastika was only brought down by the end of a military action and only ever has had one meaning since Nazi's adopted it.. False equivalency, one has many meanings, the other just one.
Originally posted by Scribble
I want to give him the chance to clarify. If he dodges it again, I have enough to know the answer anyway.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
So, no, you don't think the hammer and sickle flag should be illegal? Despite it being used by communists world-wide, and it being flown through far more global atrocities than the Nazis could ever wish to achieve?

Fair enough.

Originally posted by Scribble
So, no, you don't think the hammer and sickle flag should be illegal? Despite it being used by communists world-wide, and it being flown through far more global atrocities than the Nazis could ever wish to achieve?

Fair enough.

Already explained your false equivalency.

Not a false equivalency. As flags, both represent violent, authoritarian ideologies that have committed some of the worst atrocities in human history. Communism wins in terms of body count, though.

You may not wish to understand your false equivalency, but a false equivalency it is. One means many things, the other just one.

If the Nazi flag meant loads of other things too, it wouldn't stop its ultimate meaning to be a representation of a violent, authoritarian ideology. Communist symbols may have 'other meanings', but at their core, they reflect a support of communism, the single most murderous ideology in human history.

Originally posted by Scribble
If the Nazi flag meant loads of other things too, it wouldn't stop its ultimate meaning to be a representation of a violent, authoritarian ideology. Communist symbols may have 'other meanings', but at their core, they reflect a support of communism, the single most murderous ideology in human history.
No, many are just fashion, like the brand proletariat. The Swatika in the west has just one meaning. In fact the Hammer and Sickle in 90-91 was worn as a celebration of perestroika and eventually the collapse of the CCCP.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
It depends if they are attached to a movement. Wearing Che for fashion with John Lennon glasses certainly doesn't conjure the same image as the "proud boys".

You do know Che hated Blacks and gays right?

Originally posted by Scribble
Not a false equivalency. As flags, both represent violent, authoritarian ideologies that have committed some of the worst atrocities in human history. Communism wins in terms of body count, though.

Yup, communism wins... and it's not even close.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
No, many are just fashion, like the brand proletariat. The Swatika in the west has just one meaning. In fact the Hammer and Sickle in 90-91 was worn as a celebration of perestroika and eventually the collapse of the CCCP.
The brand is toxic as it will always hark back to its primary use: to show support for the single most deadly political movement in world history.

And if someone's flying a communist flag in their garden, you can sure as hell bet that it ain't no fashion statement.

Originally posted by Scribble
If the Nazi flag meant loads of other things too, it wouldn't stop its ultimate meaning to be a representation of a violent, authoritarian ideology. Communist symbols may have 'other meanings', but at their core, they reflect a support of communism, the single most murderous ideology in human history.

Pooty is so dumb that he's on record saying that there are "good kinds of communism and bad kinds of comunism" lol.

That's like saying "there are good kinds of shit sandwiches and bad kinds of shit sandwiches" lol.