Originally posted by Scribble
You seem pretty favourable towards communism most of the time, though. You also seem to like Marx a lot, and identify as a socialist, so I find it hard to believe you actually dislike communism all that much.
Yeah, if you idolize Karl Marx as pooty clearly does then it's obvious you like communism.
And communism is every bit as bad as Nazism which is why I detest both of them.
Originally posted by Scribble
You seem pretty favourable towards communism most of the time, though. You also seem to like Marx a lot, and identify as a socialist, so I find it hard to believe you actually dislike communism all that much.
George Orwell considered himself a socialist while also being extremely critical of how socialism and communism was practiced.
Originally posted by BackFireOrwell was many things, though. He was a classic Englishman and endorsed traditional English values. He was also in many ways philosophically an anarchist, believing all government to be evil. He was critical of much of Marx's work, believing a lot of it to be futile attempts at telling the future. His form of socialism is incredibly deep and nuanced, and a form I respect (and identify with, in many ways). I'm actually partial to non-Marxist socialist ideas, and social policies in general. Orwell is probably one of my political heroes.
George Orwell considered himself a socialist while also being extremely critical of how socialism and communism was practiced.
Whirly hasn't really ever shown any critiques of socialism or communism though, and he likes Marx a lot. I don't see much Orwell in Whirly.
As a concept, fascism as practiced by Nazi's might be worse, but in practice, communism has been way damaging than any fascist regime. It also comes it's own versions of concentration camps. We had an entire 100 years to see how terrible communism becomes.
Anyone flying the hammer/sickle are idiots. Not entirely sure why it's better than the Nazi flag outside of the emotions they evoke in Western media. Fly the Hammer and Sickle in some parts of Europe. They'll beat the shit out of you.
I think Nazism is a much less dangerous concept than Communism. Communism is much more insidious because it is alluring to kind hearted people via socialism.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusWell put. 👆
As a concept, fascism as practiced by Nazi's might be worse, but in practice, communism has been way damaging than any fascist regime. It also comes it's own versions of concentration camps. We had an entire 100 years to see how terrible communism becomes.Anyone flying the hammer/sickle are idiots. Not entirely sure why it's better than the Nazi flag outside of the emotions they evoke in Western media. Fly the Hammer and Sickle in some parts of Europe. They'll beat the shit out of you.
I think Nazism is a much less dangerous concept than Communism. Communism is much more insidious because it is alluring to kind hearted people via socialism.
Originally posted by Scribble
Communism has never worked, it has only ended in disaster, starvation and mass-murder. Anyone wearing a communist symbol is saying that they approve of the many atrocities committed in its name, whether they know that or not. Communism at its very heart is about violent overthrow of society, theft of personal property, and the execution or subjugation of the middle and upper classes. Among many other things.Sure, Nazi symbols are more obvious in their intent, but that actually makes Nazism much less dangerous than communism. You know where you stand with a Nazi. Communism has become 'chic', making it a much more viable threat in its insidious nature.
The number of dead Chinese under Chairman Mao was at least twice as many that died under Stalin in Russia, but when Mao passed away in the 1970's there was one important stat no one can argue with - after him, the life expectancy of the average Chinese person had doubled, from the time he took power in 1949. Though China has not wanted to bring back the cult of personality Mao and his wife enjoyed, his accomplishments in the end made the country stronger. We in the west can throw stones all we want, but it's what people in China think of Mao that matters, and his legacy is mixed.
Stalin, after having his legacy denounced following his death, has gotten somewhat rehabilitated in the past decades and among ordinary Russians his reputation has risen to mixed, at best.
I've been to Cuba several times, and the people there love Fidel Castro and are proud of their independence in the face of an overbearing USA, but they would like more from the government and their new president, so it will be fascinating to watch. No one there is calling Communism a mistake.
Vietnam is still Communist and seems happy to be.
But anyone bringing up North Korea - that's not Communism. That's 1984 come to life.