question for the "pronoun people"

Originally posted by Scribble
Also, here's a little metaphor for everyone, using your idea:

A stone drops on a man. He is too weak to protect himself, and is crushed instantly. There is nothing he could have done in this situation, as he never had the training provided to him to defend himself, and did not know such heavy rocks existed.

Another man has a stone drop onto him: this stone is a metaphorical, and it is depression and suicidal ideation. Without the training provided to deal with this weight, and him not being born or raised to be naturally hardy, he dies.

That's how this kind of thing works.

Unfortunately, life is sink or swim. The people who do not figure it out do not live to tell the tale.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
In other words, "weaponizing" means simply pointing out that the people with whom you side politically are transphobic, use dehumanizing language to describe transgender people, seek to limit the rights of transgender people, and do not consider transgender identities valid.

Those facts are "weapons," because you cannot reconcile them with your continued association and ideological alignment with those people.

And ayone who points that out is unfairly "wielding" those pesky facts against you.

The notion that people are "pecking at your identity, knowing it will affect you somehow" is grandiose nonsense. You are not that important. No one is attuned to your inner dialogue, and thinking of the things they can say to get to you in your lowest moments.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Unfortunately, life is sink or swim. The people who do not figure it out do not live to tell the tale.

Adam, you are literally who the left claim Dave Rubin to be.

Originally posted by Scribble
God, this is embarrassing. What a hell of a way to interpret events you didn't even witness, based on the testimony of one person you disagree with on a purely contrarian level. Astounding.

The simplest way to remedy that is to quote the exchange, as everyone has been asking you to, so they can see it for themselvs in context—something you seem very reluctant to do.

You seem to want to have it both ways. You want to be able to use your minority status to shield you from criticism, but also wield it as a weapon against people with whom you disagree. You need to pick one.

Originally posted by Scribble
You are genuinely a hardcore conservative. God, this 'left/right' thing is an absolute joke.

Adam, you are literally who the left claim Dave Rubin to be.

The left/right dichotomy is a joke, but you can accurately categorize people into those same dichotomies?

You need to get your worldview together. It is terribly inconsistent.

Originally posted by Scribble
I mostly agree, but this opinion has to go alongside available healthcare, or it doesn't hold much weight.

This country definitely needs better mental health care.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
The left/right dichotomy is a joke, but you can accurately categorize people into those same dichotomies?

You need to get your worldview together. It is terribly inconsistent.

But tbf, you aren't actually left-wing anyway, I'm not sure why you're considered as such in the first place.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
The simplest way to remedy that is to quote the exchange, as everyone has been asking you to, so they can see it for themselvs in context—something you seem very reluctant to do.

You seem to want to have it both ways. You want to be able to use your minority status to shield you from criticism, but also wield it as a weapon against people with whom you disagree. You need to pick one.

Honestly, you should know why I wont find them for you: you've already stated that I deserved to be misgendered for being controversial.

Why would I do anything for someone looking only to defeat me? I do not hand my enemies weapons. They can find them themselves, and then cut me down with them.

Originally posted by Silent Master
This country definitely needs better mental health care.

Thread jumped pretty quick. Not sure if I want to read...

Originally posted by Scribble
It's a joke in a very simple way: you are ostensibly left-wing, yet share most traits with the right in how you view many topics. This is an example why the dichotomy is silly.

But tbf, you aren't actually left-wing anyway, I'm not sure why you're considered as such in the first place.

You are confusing style with content. I do not hold conservative positions. I just express those positions in a way that you associate with conservatives. Those are not the same thing, and you should really learn the difference.

Originally posted by Scribble
I have already offered very easy instructions to finding the posts. It's a mini-saga, so requires a decent amount of reading.

Honestly, you should know why I wont find them for you: you've already stated that I deserved to be misgendered for being controversial.

Why would I do anything for someone looking only to defeat me? I do not hand my enemies weapons. They can find them themselves, and then cut me down with them.

I did not state that you deserved to be misgendered. I stated that you deliberately sought out to be misgendered, so you could claim fake outrage. And you admitted that is exactly what you did. You got exactly the reaction you wanted, so what are you complaining about? Are we supposed to be truly outraged over your manufactured outrage? You played a stupid game and won a stupid prize. Are we supposed to feel sorry for you?

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
You are confusing style with content. I do not hold conservative positions. I just express those positions in a way that you associate with conservatives. Those are not the same thing, and you should really learn the difference.

I did not state that you deserved to be misgendered. I stated that you deliberately sought out to be misgendered, so you could claim fake outrage. And you admitted that is exactly what you did. You got exactly the reaction you wanted, so what are you complaining about? Are we supposed to be truly outraged over your manufactured outrage? You played a stupid game and won a stupid prize. Are we supposed to feel sorry for you?

Until then, we are both aware of your dishonesty, in both content and style. I am not one to try refuting that which your tribe will cheer regardless, and your critics will decry regardless. That is a futile endeavour. But I will aim to reply to your worthwhile sentences tomorrow.

Originally posted by Scribble
Look, Adam, I'll come back to this tomorrow. It's very late here. Please do afford me that, I'm so excited to continue this discussion.

Until then, we are both aware of your dishonesty, in both content and style. I am not one to try refuting that which your tribe will cheer regardless, and your critics will decry regardless. That is a futile endeavour. But I will aim to reply to your worthwhile sentences tomorrow.

I am dishonest, but you have yet to answer my question or substantiate any of your claims. You have a really tenuous grasp of "dishonesty."

Originally posted by Silent Master
This country definitely needs better mental health care.

Whirly is full of shit.

Originally posted by Scribble
Did you read the Guardian article on them?

Originally posted by Scribble
I agree, but I don't trust modern doctors nor many modern mental health professionals. The more more "female brains in male bodies" route we go, the more transitioning children we get.

Either way, a year of therapy MINIMUM before any decision to transition on public healthcare. If your distress can be alleviated by therapy, there is no call for a full sex change to be bankrolled by the taxpayer.

But America don't need to care 'bout that. It's all about the money.

Also hence why so many UK trans kids are middle-to-upper class socialists.

Lets not forget the entire industry created an iillness that was based on a lie.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Kitty_Genovese

Originally posted by cdtm
Lets not forget the entire industry created an iillness that was based on a lie.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Kitty_Genovese

The story of people standing idly by at the murder of Kitty Genovese has certainly been exaggerated (or even lied about if you prefer), but that doesn't mean that there isn't evidence for aspects of a bystander effect.

Originally posted by Artol
The story of people standing idly by at the murder of Kitty Genovese has certainly been exaggerated (or even lied about if you prefer), but that doesn't mean that there isn't evidence for aspects of a bystander effect.

I'd argue more evidence exists for Stockholm Syndrome.

And I think that's bullshit too.

You won't find too many examples of someone who knows another is in life or death situations, and bystanders doing nothing at all about it. Even if only to call 911.

Exceptions would more be in gang and mafia related situations. Like in the song "You don't mess around with Jim". Because they'll kill you too, if you rat.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Toughen up is a somewhat simplistic way of looking at it. However, if you are physically weak try working out. If you are mentally weak try going to therapy. Generally speaking, suicide is a permanent solution to what is usually a temporary problem.

mental illness or not, i have never had any remorse for people who choose suicide.