Can Thor and Thanos break The chains in UP and The Sky

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
To answer: yes they were. Or they were adapting. Not my point anyway.

Generally speaking the only time these types of details ever seem to matter is in debates like this. The big question is was this villain supposed to credible yes! Then clearly the writer's intention was to make this feat impressive for Superman.

The only problem I generally have is when the same benefit isn't given to other characters. For instance Thor has plenty of striking feats that shows his overall power and ability to exert force but a good group of people will try and nitpick them away because they have a bias and desired outcome for ignoring the context/writer's intention.

But they were not stronger from the jump and took over an hour plus more robot to even get to the level that they were doing anything. Then there's that design flaw where if the leader is beaten the robots fall.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
My discussion started from there. Damborg's post gave no apparent appearance of support and Abhi's post specifically responded to the neutron star feat.

But what is interesting is that you posted your correction and got exited about it as if you really made some type of damning revelation. I missed those earlier posts. Who really cares? I'm not posting sarcastic follow-ups because h1 thought I initiated it.

Originally posted by Newjak
Yes but the amount of force required to cause acceleration is dependent on the environment said object exists in correct?

For instance the amount of force required to accelerate a bowling ball on Earth vs in a vacuum would different or is my understanding of this incorrect?

In theory if I exist in a vacuum and have some form of leverage to apply force and gravity doesn't exist. I thought there is no limit to the amount of mass I could cause to accelerate under such conditions?

In an atmosphere (or a fluid), acceleration would also depend also on shape of an object (drag forces) and speed. The object's cross sectional area, shape of the object, and current speed of the object determines the force necessary to accelerate the object to a particular speed. This increases the force needed to accelerate an object to a particular speed. For example, if drag wasn't neglected (as in this case it was) then the actually force to haul stars would be significantly larger.

How is who beat the robots relevant for this feat?
Clearly the writer's intention is that the chains were used to haul stars between galaxies is enough. That's a specific detail on how the chains were being used.

Originally posted by h1a8
How is who beat the robots relevant for this feat?
Clearly the writer's intention is that the chains were used to haul stars between galaxies is enough. That's a specific detail on how the chains were being used.

Originally posted by h1a8
How is who beat the robots relevant for this feat?
Clearly the writer's intention is that the chains were used to haul stars between galaxies is enough. That's a specific detail on how the chains were being used.

So now one bubble on one panel from a character never seen again is gospel that those chains were unbreakable... Though they broke two panels later? 🤔 You do realize only someone with below average cognitive abilities would miss all the flags that this "feat" is... Trash

you can pull a ten ton truck with a fiber rope. It doesn't mean the fibers are rolled steel durability or have several hundred horsepower or tons of torque.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
you can pull a ten ton truck with a fiber rope. It doesn't mean the fibers are rolled steel durability or have several hundred horsepower or tons of torque.

But you know that this post shows your ignorance in physics.
Torque has nothing to do with anything here.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
So now one bubble on one panel from a character never seen again is gospel that those chains were unbreakable... Though they broke two panels later? 🤔 You do realize only someone with below average cognitive abilities would miss all the flags that this "feat" is... Trash

No one is arguing that the chains were unbreakable. Especially when they were broken.

😮

Anyone can come to a false conclusion based off incomplete knowledge.

What does that have to do with anything here?

Originally posted by h1a8
I didn't think you initiated it. I figured someone did as I saw the connection of why it was mentioned.

In an atmosphere (or a fluid), acceleration would also depend also on shape of an object (drag forces) and speed. The object's cross sectional area, shape of the object, and current speed of the object determines the force necessary to accelerate the object to a particular speed. This increases the force needed to accelerate an object to a particular speed. For example, if drag wasn't neglected (as in this case it was) then the actually force to haul stars would be significantly larger.

Thanks h1a8

Those chains had never been broken before. They had been tested under ridiculously extreme conditions such as hauling stars from one galaxy to another and they had always proven unbreakable. The alien simply couldn't imagine anyone ever being capable of breaking them. And had it been MU, he would've been right.

But Superman could.

Originally posted by h1a8
I agree. The fiber rope only has the strength to pull what it pulled at the speed in which it pulled it. Nothing more.

But you know that this post shows your ignorance in physics.
Torque has nothing to do with anything here.

No one is arguing that the chains were unbreakable. Especially when they were broken.

😮

Anyone can come to a false conclusion based off incomplete knowledge.

What does that have to do with anything here?

I didn't say torque had shit to do with the chains or stars. It was a reference to the TRUCK. Like horsepower. Or rolled steel durability. See what I mean? You can't even follow a 144 character comparison without ****ing it up. No wonder Up In The Sky flew way over your head 😂

In even more dumbed down formula: much like the rope doesn't have attributes equal to the truck it pulls, ditto for those chains. They and the metal they're made from can easily have attributes far below star level.

You're terrible at this my god man

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
😂 I got owned?
How? The ALIEN was LYING like every alien that tried to stop Superman before him. Zatana beat MULTIPLE robots he said are stronger and faster than Supes. What is there not to get? There's no feat cuz he was LYING or ignorant as ****. Either way everything he thought was clearly intentionally or ignorantly wrong.
How does an ENTIRE GROUP of people all getting together to discuss a READING media have so little comprehension? ****ing Christ 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤷🏿‍♂️

dur

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil

Like do y'all get how common Superman as Jesus stories are? It's ****ing cliche at this point. Up In the Sky is the Temptation of Christ. Period. The alien was lying. Period. It's literally the point of the story arc. Supes faith. In himself.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
😂 I got owned?
How? The ALIEN was LYING like every alien that tried to stop Superman before him. Zatana beat MULTIPLE robots he said are stronger and faster than Supes. What is there not to get? There's no feat cuz he was LYING or ignorant as ****. Either way everything he thought was clearly intentionally or ignorantly wrong.
How does an ENTIRE GROUP of people all getting together to discuss a READING media have so little comprehension? ****ing Christ 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤷🏿‍♂️

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
I didn't say torque had shit to do with the chains or stars. It was a reference to the TRUCK. Like horsepower. Or rolled steel durability. See what I mean? You can't even follow a 144 character comparison without ****ing it up. No wonder Up In The Sky flew way over your head 😂

Originally posted by h1a8
Torque doesn't have anything to do with anything here, not even your truck scenario. It's a completely irrelevant topic. You might as well be talking about how much can a cat eat.

😂 Are you THAT ignorant? You and your Superman camp used "it pulls stars" to add attributes to these chains. As an comparison, I used ropes pulling a truck. What's an attribute of trucks? Torque. Hence me saying a rope doesn't have torque, horsepower or rolled steel durability just cuz you can pull a truck that has these attributes with it.
There's a reason why people insult you, You can't even follow a simple, direct comparison without brain melt and miscomprehension

Oh, look, a character said a thing! Clearly nothing can stop #1 Fan... From killing himself. Character exposition as hard fact is retard thinking:

Literally the only reference to this "unbreakable metal" in 80+ years of DC continuity is the panel before it breaks
This whole thing took place in a Temptation of Christ type story arc where Clark was basically tempted again and again to give up, but held his faith and did not.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
😂 Are you THAT ignorant? You and your Superman camp used "it pulls stars" to add attributes to these chains. As an comparison, I used ropes pulling a truck. What's an attribute of trucks? Torque. Hence me saying a rope doesn't have torque, horsepower or rolled steel durability just cuz you can pull a truck that has these attributes with it.
There's a reason why people insult you, You can't even follow a simple, direct comparison without brain melt and miscomprehension

Originally posted by h1a8
Well you didn't explain it well enough. It doesn't matter how much torque a truck can generate. The fact remains that the rope is doing the pulling and therefore is experiencing tension force.

A truck would do the pulling, the trailer would make the cargo roll easier and the rope would give link to the trailer to give it momentum to move