Can Thor and Thanos break The chains in UP and The Sky

Originally posted by Newjak
Doesn't that also rely on the environment.

In space wouldn't the force required to move the bowling ball be much much less and very similar to the ping pong ball? If I was let's say on an unmovable platform for leverage and gravity doesn't exist if I shoved a building it would in fact start to move in the direction I shoved it correct? Something I couldn't accomplish on earth.

The force required to accelerate (not move) the bowling ball is magnitudes greater. For example, if you were to pluck each then the bowling ball would move very little and the ping pong ball would fly away at a good speed.

Acceleration is the rate in which speed and direction changes.
Think of speeding something up or slowing it down.

😂 😂 Then again diesl you're the same moron that thinks screaming "ARGH!!" is the same as being tickled. so you're highly special, not surprised.

Originally posted by Diesldude
So I don’t want to see Trollberto and carter 9 lowball they heat of 10 billion suns that the thought robot tanked.

Why? Black winter died from the energy of a hundred thousand devoured worlds.

H1 buddy, do the math for us and show us a comparison here.

10 billion suns tickled Superman.
100k devoured worlds killed BW.

Originally posted by Newjak
Doesn't that also rely on the environment.

In space wouldn't the force required to move the bowling ball be much much less and very similar to the ping pong ball? If I was let's say on an unmovable platform for leverage and gravity doesn't exist if I shoved a building it would in fact start to move in the direction I shoved it correct? Something I couldn't accomplish on earth.

Got damn it, same argument Alberto made. He said that a star is weightless in space. Oh wait, so is earth, Its in space, let me try to push it. Star has its gravity. Once you make a connection its stellar weight.

Whatever they enveloped it with if they did, adds to the weight the chains have to pull increasing the tension even more. The word haul was used, they werent teleporting it. They didnt use “tractor” beams pulling, they used metal chains. This is not a energy tool it’s a physical object so the stars were physically hauled. There is what was said in the comic, this other stuff is because people got butthurt after they realized the enormity of the feat and are trying to make up ways a star can be moved. We can sit here for years discussing ways a star can be moved in comics but why when we were explicitly told that it was “hauled” by a solid object.

Thor gets owned

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
😂 😂 Then again diesl you're the same moron that thinks screaming "ARGH!!" is the same as being tickled. so you're highly special, not surprised.

Got damn it, same argument Alberto made. He said that a star is weightless in space. Oh wait, so is earth, Its in space, let me try to push it. Star has its gravity. Once you make a connection its stellar weight.

Whatever they enveloped it with if they did, adds to the weight the chains have to pull increasing the tension even more. The word haul was used, they werent teleporting it. They didnt use “tractor” beams pulling, they used metal chains. This is not a energy tool it’s a physical object so the stars were physically hauled. There is what was said in the comic, this other stuff is because people got butthurt after they realized the enormity of the feat and are trying to make up ways a star can be moved. We can sit here for years discussing ways a star can be moved in comics but why when we were explicitly told that it was “hauled” by a solid object.

I mean I've already said this feat was meant to be a great feat by writer's intention.

I'm just following up on this discussion as an after the fact. I believe the outcome of this has overall bearing how to take the feat. Regardless of who believe.

Originally posted by h1a8
The force required to accelerate (not move) the bowling ball is magnitudes greater. For example, if you were to pluck each then the bowling ball would move very little and the ping pong ball would fly away at a good speed.

Acceleration is the rate in which speed and direction changes.
Think of speeding something up or slowing it down.

For instance the amount of force required to accelerate a bowling ball on Earth vs in a vacuum would different or is my understanding of this incorrect?

In theory if I exist in a vacuum and have some form of leverage to apply force and gravity doesn't exist. I thought there is no limit to the amount of mass I could cause to accelerate under such conditions?

😂 😂 You said it "tickled" Superman, and the attack killed BW. You were lowballing and it backfired LMAO. Not even Hulkster thought you were ExAggErAtInG

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Along with "the full might of the IMMEASURABLE Power Cosmic" and "the bleeding life force of a universal constant". You left those out.

Next you're gonna tell us how Superman stood unphased from that punch by Konvikt 🤦‍♂️

Also this site has gotten even buggier. It's much harder to quote and edit then I remember.

I meant to say I don't believe this discussion really matter to the overall outcome.

I mean....Lobo has broken unbreakable metal before as well...

Doesn't mean when it crosses realities/universes whatever, that it would stlll retain its 'unbreakable' tag. It just means that up until then, it hasn't been broken. The one who made the claim could/would be wrong, but that could be an error made in good faith.

Anyway, I want to see Thor/Thanos strength feats. Rather than lowball one side (the chains weren't all that!!) why don't people highball the other side (Thor and Thanos are the bestest!!!!)?

Originally posted by h1a8
Although you can theoretically negate weight (gravity) force, weight force (gravity pull) is irrelevant here. It takes force to accelerate mass (even in the absence of gravity). Think of a bowling ball vs a ping pong ball floating in space. The bowling ball would be harder to throw than the ping pong ball. Gravity of each has nothing to do with it.

The mass of the star was unchanged due to writers intent.

Bowling balls have an actual solid weight object inside them. Ping pong balls don't.
Stars are gas and energy, the inertia/gravity is the thing that gives them weight.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I mean, we NEVER get told how heavy the cars are that Hawkeye lifts, or the mass of any RL objects (submarines, trucks, cars etc) that comic characters lift.

But if Aunt May lifts a car, that's an impressive feat - we don't need to know what model of car, or its exact composition, or whatever.

Hawkeye lifting an uneven small taxi off him makes sense. He used his bow as a "jack base" and pushed up. He's strong enough to quick fire arrows from a 250 pound string for an extended period of time. It's not like he directly lifted the whole car.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Hawkeye lifting an uneven small taxi off him makes sense. He used his bow as a "jack base" and pushed up. He's strong enough to quick fire arrows from a 250 pound string for an extended period of time. It's not like he directly lifted the whole car.

Not my point lmao but ok.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Hawkeye lifting an uneven small taxi off him makes sense. He used his bow as a "jack base" and pushed up. He's strong enough to quick fire arrows from a 250 pound string for an extended period of time. It's not like he directly lifted the whole car.

He didn't use the bow and he lifted it with a single arm.

Bendis actually hinted that Clint had some super-powers in that NA volume.

Of course, like with most Bendis' ideas, he quickly lost the interest in it and never told the readers wtf it was all about.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I mean....Lobo has broken unbreakable metal before as well...

Doesn't mean when it crosses realities/universes whatever, that it would stlll retain its 'unbreakable' tag. It just means that up until then, it hasn't been broken. The one who made the claim could/would be wrong, but that could be an error made in good faith.

Anyway, I want to see Thor/Thanos strength feats. Rather than lowball one side (the chains weren't all that!!) why don't people highball the other side (Thor and Thanos are the bestest!!!!)?

Good post, to call the villain a liar just because he misjudged Superman is laughable. The chains were probably never broken that’s why he made these claims. But the main thing is we know what’s those chains can handle and that is hauling stars vast distances. Thor doesnt have any feat close, heck hulk doesnt either and he’s supposed to be known for his strength. If Thor was in the spot, I could see him trying to hammer the chains off instead of using his muscles.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
😂 😂 You said it "tickled" Superman, and the attack killed BW. You were lowballing and it backfired LMAO. Not even Hulkster thought you were ExAggErAtInG

Next you're gonna tell us how Superman stood unphased from that punch by Konvikt 🤦‍♂️

How is weak ass Thor supposed to break these chains, hes to weak.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
He didn't use the bow and he lifted it with a single arm.

pay attention to the panels, he did use it as a lifting point:

😂 I got owned?
How? The ALIEN was LYING like every alien that tried to stop Superman before him. Zatana beat MULTIPLE robots he said are stronger and faster than Supes. What is there not to get? There's no feat cuz he was LYING or ignorant as ****. Either way everything he thought was clearly intentionally or ignorantly wrong.
How does an ENTIRE GROUP of people all getting together to discuss a READING media have so little comprehension? ****ing Christ 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤷🏿‍♂️