Rune King Thor vs. Current Thor

Started by Stoic13 pages
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Tbf, none of Rage, celey or Dambo would engage you on this point; I wonder why?

Probably because it isn't that tough to see which of the two would win with ease. Arguing the point just seems very contrary to me. We know for a fact that to be Asgard (As stated by Loki) one would have to be the master of that realm. Odin is a prime example. We see this citing in his battle with Thanos. We later see the same for All Father Thor, as it states the bonuses that come from being the All Father of Asgard. Loki at that time was no different. Look how easily RK Thor dealt with him.

This is a mismatch of Epic proportions. RK Thor is greater than a grouping of Elder Gods, who in turn are greater than Odin.

It states that Mangog's Magic was siphoned. It says nothing about his legendary strength.

It states "To give everything is to do anything". Everything? His life? Odin sacrificed an eye, and gained limited affinity to the Runes. Thor on the other hand gave everything, and gained an intimate bond with the Runes which allowed him to access far more power from them.

Originally posted by Damborgson
Oh i'll do the BZ, but you need to argue what I'm trying to debate, not something else.

Your stance needs to be: RKT is only slightly above Odin. And mine is that he is notceably above Odin.

Or, you think RKT is >= Odin and I say he is simply > Odin.

So you want your cake and eat it too, no matter who wins its going to prove RKT is more powerful than Odin.

We can argue how to operationally define that, but you cannot take the stance that they are equal.

So, no backing out here lol.

I'm not precisely intimated by you:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f105/t655309.html

5-0 , Abhi baby.

One match is hardly the measure of me. If you are so unafraid, why don't you do this BZ as I want. Surely you can beat me there?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I read the entire BZ. Good stuff.

Really not sure how Strange would be able to drain Mjolnir and destroy it.

Strange has nowhere near the power or capabilities to mess with Mjolnir at that level without some ridiculous prep. Every time Strange has encountered Asgardian magic, it was clear it was potent/superior to anything else he deals with.

For example, a SINGLE branch from the World Tree made him the powerful he's ever been before (And Loki stalemated him):

Asgardian magic is the most powerful out of all divine pantheons.

Also that scan of Strange "beating" Thor was just a straight up lie lmao


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Originally posted by Stoic
Probably because it isn't that tough to see which of the two would win with ease. Arguing the point just seems very contrary to me. We know for a fact that to be Asgard (As stated by Loki) one would have to be the master of that realm. Odin is a prime example. We see this citing in his battle with Thanos. We later see the same for All Father Thor, as it states the bonuses that come from being the All Father of Asgard. Loki at that time was no different. Look how easily RK Thor dealt with him.

This is a mismatch of Epic proportions. RK Thor is greater than a grouping of Elder Gods, who in turn are greater than Odin.

It states that Mangog's Magic was siphoned. It says nothing about his legendary strength.

It states "To give everything is to do anything". Everything? His life? Odin sacrificed an eye, and gained limited affinity to the Runes. Thor on the other hand gave everything, and gained an intimate bond with the Runes which allowed him to access far more power from them.


😂

Your fanfiction is amusing.

I must be missing something.

Abhiligend thinks Odin = RKT, and Dam thinks RKT >>> Odin. Can Damb show than RKT > Odin, or does it have to be within concrete parameters for the BZ to count?

If it's the latter, you technically can both lose the battle zone lmao ex: Judges think RKT >> Odin

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I must be missing something.

Abhiligend thinks Odin = RKT, and Dam thinks RKT >>> Odin. Can Damb show than RKT > Odin, or does it have to be within concrete parameters for the BZ to count?

If it's the latter, you technically can both lose the battle zone lmao ex: Judges think RKT >> Odin

In that case, Galan wins a s he was arguing that RKT is only slightly above Odin.

It's a 3way with 2 participants lol.

Meanwhile, Stoic is arguing that Herald Thor is weak sauce.....

Originally posted by abhilegend
So you want your cake and eat it too, no matter who wins its going to prove RKT is more powerful than Odin.

One match is hardly the measure of me. If you are so unafraid, why don't you do this BZ as I want. Surely you can beat me there?

Well yeah.

I know man, I'm just busting your balls a bit.

But fine, you want to do one that proves RKT is just > Odin, period ? We can do that i suppose. Then I'll do the other one with someone else I guess 🤷‍♂️

Originally posted by Stoic
It states that Mangog's Magic was siphoned. It says nothing about his legendary strength.
Where exactly do you think Mangog's strength comes from? Do you honestly believe that a Mangog with his magics siphoned away would still be as physically strong as a Mangog with all his magics intact?

As an example, do you think this Galactus:

Was still as physically strong as this Galactus:

If so... Why?
If not... Why?

Originally posted by Stoic
It states "To give everything is to do anything". Everything? His life? Odin sacrificed an eye, and gained limited affinity to the Runes. Thor on the other hand gave everything, and gained an intimate bond with the Runes which allowed him to access far more power from them.
The locations did not honor the same sacrifice twice. That is why Thor had to go further with all his sacrifices than Odin had. That is why Thor had to give both eyes(instead of just one), to drink from the Well of Mimir:

*Thor tried sacrificing just one eye at first, but the Well didn't validate that sacrifice because Odin had already done the same thing. Hence why he had to give both eyes for the Well to fill.

Thor sacrificing more than Odin does NOT mean he gained more of an amp than Odin had by default. It's essentially what he *had* to do for his sacrifices to be recognized at all.

imo rkt > odin

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I must be missing something.

Abhiligend thinks Odin = RKT, and Dam thinks RKT >>> Odin. Can Damb show than RKT > Odin, or does it have to be within concrete parameters for the BZ to count?

If it's the latter, you technically can both lose the battle zone lmao ex: Judges think RKT >> Odin

No, youre not.

That's why I didn't want to do it, but I'm game so long as the judges are aware that this is strictly whether Rune King is stronger than Odin or not, not about the extent of the power.

I can do another BZ for that.

Abhi, I heard that if u subscribe with pay on Dambo's channel, it gains access to his bz tactics. It's under the heading, "RKT feats, antifeats, and relative comparisons..."

$50 is steep though. He doesnt even give pandemic discounts. What a scheister that Dambo!
🙁

Hey, hey, hey, I'm trying to win here !

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Abhi, I heard that if u subscribe with pay on Dambo's channel, it gains access to his bz tactics. It's under the heading, "RKT feats, antifeats, and relative comparisons..."

$50 is steep though. He doesnt even give pandemic discounts. What a scheister that Dambo!
🙁

lmao

Originally posted by Stoic
Probably because it isn't that tough to see which of the two would win with ease. Arguing the point just seems very contrary to me. We know for a fact that to be Asgard (As stated by Loki) one would have to be the master of that realm. Odin is a prime example. We see this citing in his battle with Thanos. We later see the same for All Father Thor, as it states the bonuses that come from being the All Father of Asgard. Loki at that time was no different. Look how easily RK Thor dealt with him.

This is a mismatch of Epic proportions. RK Thor is greater than a grouping of Elder Gods, who in turn are greater than Odin.

It states that Mangog's Magic was siphoned. It says nothing about his legendary strength.

It states "To give everything is to do anything". Everything? His life? Odin sacrificed an eye, and gained limited affinity to the Runes. Thor on the other hand gave everything, and gained an intimate bond with the Runes which allowed him to access far more power from them.

To help you out:

"...Even now he reshapes Asgard to suit his own needs. As Loki's powers grow, Thor and the others find their powers wane...."

Loki was getting stronger throughout the entire run. Every victory added to his power. By the end, when he said he was Asgard, taking that as literal and him being a Skyfather would be very reasonable. The energies/power in Asgard can make you Skyfather + alone (See Odin vs. Seth). Also, in Asgard, symbolic victory grants power.

All of Loki's allies such as Fenris became more powerful over the coming days/victories:

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Also:

"You must become more than the All-father!"

But I don't want to spoil Damborg's BZ with too much evidence, so I'll step back from this.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Also:

"You must become [b]more than the All-father!" [/B]

There are a few ways to interpret that, because you could also argue that Thor's experiences with humanity/mortality(and not necessarily his raw power) did make him "more" than Odin, because he was ultimately able to break the Ragnarok cycle(something Odin could not do, because he lacked said humanity/mortality.)

But either way, that scan is still one of the only reasons why I am willing to credit RKT with perhaps being slightly beyond Odin.

You're giving Rage a stroke now.

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Keep doing what you're doing 👆

@galan
How do you define slightly? 😕

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