!!!The Official Dragon Ball vs. Comics Thread!!!

Started by Classic NES298 pages

Originally posted by cdtm
We're not discussing the philosophical history of chi. We are debating how it is used in Dragon Ball and comic books.

Dragon ball is based on chinese mythology you goddamn moron.

Originally posted by Classic NES
The word ki is a sino Japanese corruption of the Chinese word Qi/chi. It's the samething because the idea is a Chinese import to Japan which itself comes from Daoism.

You're utilizing our real world words to argue with fiction.
Just because something is life force doesn't equal to being the same or perceived the same.
Plants life force energy which makes them grow is from the sun, Does that mean I'm solar powered too?
I mean I got a life force also

Originally posted by Galan007
Haha.

😂 😂

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
You're utilizing our real world words to argue with fiction.
Just because something is life force doesn't equal to being the same or perceived the same.
Plants life force energy which makes them grow is from the sun, Does that mean I'm solar powered too?
I mean I got a life force also

Plants use solar energy, not life energy. There's no such thing as life energy.

Originally posted by Classic NES
Plants use solar energy, not life energy. There's no such thing as life energy.

everything has it. In Dragon Ball it was explained that. their trees have it, when they use spirit bomb they take it from every living thing.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
You're utilizing our real world words to argue with fiction.

Its like he doesn't understand Dragon Ball and DC comics are separate fictions with their own rules, and could care less about real world philosophy.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
everything has it. In Dragon Ball it was explained that. their trees have it, when they use spirit bomb they take it from every living thing.

Right, and since everything has it there's no distinction to be made between Chi and magic. Psychics for example in Dragonball for the most part are trained, martial artists. They don't use psi for example as they do in comics, but chi as the basis of their power. Magic is the same thing in db.

Originally posted by Classic NES
Right, and since everything has it there's no distinction to be made between Chi and magic. Psychics for example in Dragonball for the most part are trained, martial artists. They don't use psi for example as they do in comics, but chi as the basis of their power. Magic is the same thing in db.

Magic is slightly different than Ki is in DB.
Moro uses Magic/Mystics and Feeds on life force/ Ki

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Magic is slightly different than Ki is in DB.
Moro uses Magic/Mystics and Feeds on life force/ Ki

Nah, it's the same. The difference is when they use the term magic it's more exotic abilities but the fundamental basis is still chi. There's no separate magic energy in DB.

Originally posted by Classic NES
Nah, it's the same. The difference is when they use the term magic it's more exotic abilities but the fundamental basis is still chi. There's no separate magic energy in DB.

There is though. At the end if its both fictional setting like to change things so they're not so similar
Unless stated energy equalized we can't auto argue they're the same because each fiction loves to change something or add more than the other.

Originally posted by Classic NES
Nah, it's the same. The difference is when they use the term magic it's more exotic abilities but the fundamental basis is still chi. There's no separate magic energy in DB.

And this is where we say you're making shit up.

Your head canon ≠ real canon.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
There is though. At the end if its both fictional setting like to change things so they're not so similar

DB has no distinction between the energy used for magic, fighting or psychics. Even Divine chi is just regular chi that doesn't leak from the body which is why it can't be sensed normally.

Originally posted by Classic NES
DB has no distinction between the energy used for magic, fighting or psychics. Even Divine chi is just regular chi that doesn't leak from the body which is why it can't be sensed normally.

According to who?

Originally posted by cdtm
According to who?

According to dragon ball.

Originally posted by Classic NES
DB has no distinction between the energy used for magic, fighting or psychics. Even Divine chi is just regular chi that doesn't leak from the body which is why it can't be sensed normally.

sighs, whatever

let’s break down thawnes other hax including time erasure, time manipulation as a whole (stop, reversal, aging and deaging, etc), possession, phasing, and the ability to use hypnotic commands to control others while moving at super speeds

He can also turn himself invisible via said phasing as a heads up and run like that

Originally posted by Classic NES
According to dragon ball.

Scans, sources, or stfu.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
sighs, whatever

let’s break down thawnes other hax including time erasure, time manipulation as a whole (stop, reversal, aging and deaging, etc), possession, phasing, and the ability to use hypnotic commands to control others while moving at super speeds

He can also turn himself invisible via said phasing as a heads up and run like that

Hard to believe anyone could make you wish you were debating Carver instead.

This is like debating with the writer of Axe Cop ffs.

Originally posted by cdtm
Hard to believe anyone could make you wish you were debating Carver instead.

This is like debating with the writer of Axe Cop ffs.

I love when people don’t understand that as far as hax is concerned your stats don’t matter

I think it's fair to assume that an expert ki reader, like Goku, would be able to sense most ki signatures from comic characters, tbh... Especially in a forum battle.

I mean, Goku can sense the ki of pretty much any manner of species in the franchise(even the folks from completely different universes that he has obviously never encountered before.) You don't really have to get all philosophical with the concept, because it's extremely simple: in the world of DB, "ki"=a being's energy...and [almost] everyone has *some* type of energy that can be sensed(this holds true in comics as well.)

*On that note, you don't even have to be powerful to be sensed. Goku, for example, was able to lock onto Bulma's ki signature from atop Kami's Lookout:
https://i.imgur.com/2mZMfbb.jpg
...And Bulma is just a normal human -- but even normal humans contain energy/ki that can be sensed(weak as it may be.)

But if we're going to assume that Goku's ability to sense energy/ki is worthless against a comic character because they hail from different media, then I guess that means Genis Vell's cosmic awareness would also be equally as worthless against a DC character... Cuz different companies? Same thing with, say, Flash vs. Surfer: even though Surfer comes from a company where the Speed Force doesn't exist, we still assume that all of Flash's Speed Force-related shenanigans would be in play in a forum battle.

I can keep going with the analogies if need be, but I'm sure you get my point.

Originally posted by cdtm
Scans, sources, or stfu.

You tell me, after all you're the one claiming that a separate energy called"magical energy " exists in DB. So, go ahead and source that claim.