!!!The Official Dragon Ball vs. Comics Thread!!!

Originally posted by carver9
Good to see you dmills, the answer to your question is, the more powerful you are, the faster your attacks are. Also, IT isn't light speed, its instantaneous movement. If you want to see them straight up outpacing blasts, then here, outpacing their attacks...

https://static1.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11114/111142976/5205111-dbz%201.jpg

But yeah, the more powerful a Z fighter gets, not only does their speed, strength, durability, etc... increase but the speed of their blast does as well.

You can'g prove any of this.

Krillin's destructo disc never gets any faster, ever.

Originally posted by carver9
You're wrong. It said Dypso SURPASSED both sound and light...

https://i.imgur.com/jscj1b5.png

Then he said that he can increase that speed a thousand folds in an instant...

https://i.imgur.com/P5CTnqi.png

Carter I know I've been gone a long time but you know better than to try the ole switcheroo on me 😂

That second scan lacks that one little subtle word distinction that you tried to sneak in which totally changes the context of the first scan. Now I don't think I have to tell you which one it is cuz you know what you did there lol

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
So, we're just gonna ignore Beerus reacting to an explosion that was about to engulf the Universe in at most 3 seconds?

Marvel would be stupid, then, since what Goku and Beerus were doing to Universe 7 was identical to what Galactus and Mephisto were doing to Mephisto's realm. And well, Toriyama wouldn't exactly be wrong about that. DC characters at the level of the Justice League usually cap at planet, planet+, large planet, star, and Solar System level.

I could've sworn that there are some scans here with two Thor's hitting their hammers in battle causing vibrations in the entire universe. And if you search enough there are some one-off or even two-off feats with herald level characters demonstrating galactic, multi galactic, universal, dimensional and even multidimensional feats.

Originally posted by dmills
I could've sworn that there are some scans here with two Thor's hitting their hammers in battle causing vibrations in the entire universe. And if you search enough there are some one-off or even two-off feats with herald level characters demonstrating galactic, multi galactic, universal, dimensional and even multidimensional feats.

Goku used a punch so powerful it overcame Beerus' nullification ability and pushed him back into space, despite him having previously nullified energy that otherwise would have annihilated Universe 7. Idk why people still deny DBS characters as of now not being able to throw universal punches Everytime, From everyone who scales above the BoG Saga. Yes, every punch.

Originally posted by dmills
I could've sworn that there are some scans here with two Thor's hitting their hammers in battle causing vibrations in the entire universe. And if you search enough there are some one-off or even two-off feats with herald level characters demonstrating galactic, multi galactic, universal, dimensional and even multidimensional feats.

Pan Galactic Gargle Blaster?

Originally posted by dmills
I could've sworn that there are some scans here with two Thor's hitting their hammers in battle causing vibrations in the entire universe. And if you search enough there are some one-off or even two-off feats with herald level characters demonstrating galactic, multi galactic, universal, dimensional and even multidimensional feats.

Originally posted by dmills
Carter I know I've been gone a long time but you know better than to try the ole switcheroo on me 😂

That second scan lacks that one little subtle word distinction that you tried to sneak in which totally changes the context of the first scan. Now I don't think I have to tell you which one it is cuz you know what you did there lol

Lol... whatever. It still said he is faster than light and he can increase that speed thousands of times in an instance.

Originally posted by cdtm
You can'g prove any of this.

Krillin's destructo disc never gets any faster, ever.

Galan already proved that to you and if it was anyone else that denied it, I would look for the post but its you, soooooooo.....

Originally posted by dmills
Carter I know I've been gone a long time but you know better than to try the ole switcheroo on me 😂

That second scan lacks that one little subtle word distinction that you tried to sneak in which totally changes the context of the first scan. Now I don't think I have to tell you which one it is cuz you know what you did there lol

Look at mah boi dmills crashing the party!

Originally posted by abhilegend
Where did you come from?

Sup E buddy? Been a while

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Look at mah boi dmills crashing the party!

What's good my guy?!

Originally posted by abhilegend
Where did you come from?

Ancient forbidden stiltmagic 😎

Originally posted by carver9
Lol... whatever. It still said he is faster than light and he can increase that speed thousands of times in an instance.

Funny, in comics, we don’t just take a characters words for law, unless it’s under specific conditions. But dragon ball says something with no proof, and it’s law.

It’s the same crap with Cell. He claimed he could destroy the Solar System, he has no proof what so ever, but we take his words as law.

It’s even further shown that Cell was nothing but bluffing, when Kid Buu’s best blast destroy only the Earth. Yes it was a casual blast, but that all it did. And Goku was scared that the blast was to powerful to even blocked.

You can't think of Dragon Ball... Which has been written/edited/supervised by the SAME guy(ie. Toriyama) since its inception 30+ years ago... In the same way you think of comics, where someone different is writing a character every other month, and doing whatever the hell they want with abilities/powersets.

That's why we can take most character statements made in DB at face value, unless we are given a legitimate reason within the source material to believe otherwise.

As for SPC having the ability to destroy the solar system: that was also confirmed in an officially licensed source outside of the manga/anime(and yes, such sources are perfectly canon to DB.) Same with writer interviews: if Toriyama makes a statement in an interview(like when he said the Kaioshin are responsible for creating the worlds within their universe and seeding them with life), then it simply becomes canon, even though something like that has never been shown or implied in the primary source material.

In the world of DB, Toriyama's word is essentially God: irrefutable and incontrovertible... Much like George Lucas was to Star Wars(pre-Disney.)

Originally posted by dmills
What's good my guy?!

Shit not much.

Just working, engaged, got 3 black cats.

Still writing that book you read a bit of years back. 😆

What if we did the same to comics?

Morrison's Fantomex/Mandrakk, David's Maestro etc.....?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
What if we did the same to comics?

Morrison's Fantomex/Mandrakk, David's Maestro etc.....?

The capacity for even destroying any amount of galaxies was surpassed by, say, early BoG Goku. This is because Pre-Zenkai SSJG Goku when he first appeared was cause for Beerus to power up by some amount, thus he was >> the Beerus that defeated Quake of Fury SSJ2 Vegeta, who was > Beerus at his most suppressed level, who was superior to himself from a long time ago by an unknown margin.

Akira, said and confirmed Beerus could destroy the Kaioshin Realm pretty easily, which was one-tenth the size of the macrocosm, or about 40% the size of the Living Universe, which was 75 million years ago in the past when he was much weaker, and that the only reason he didn't do so was that it wouldn't have been proper for him to.:
https://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/saikyo-jump-june-2014-issue-twel-buu-mysteries/?

Why do Whis and Vados step in and stop Beerus and Champa any time they fight, because it will destroy the universe. But then not interfere other times the universe is in danger (like when Goku and Beerus fought in BOG)?

I thought the GOD doesn't suppose to fight each other and they were going to destroy both Universe 6 and 7.