!!!The Official Dragon Ball vs. Comics Thread!!!

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
You're misreading The Dragons Statement, The Dragon stated what it can only do for him. Here:

Originally posted by Galan007
If Goku learned how to throw strikes without leveling the universe minutes after reaching God-level power, I'm certain Beerus also knows how to do so.

That said, Beerus and Champa's fight would have wiped out U6 and U7 if the Angels hadn't intervened, so there is that. /shrug

I still think that has less to do with Beerus and Champa's power and the fact G.o.Ds aren't meant to fight each other. We know they can travel through universes and we know the rest of them hate Beerus and want to get at him because of the last time they were all together but they never do anything to him until they get the chance in the brief tournament. I feel it would be Zeno destroying both universes.

Originally posted by Kento
😕 You're kinda missing the rest of it.

But if Beerus could do it, it would not have been up to Gokou to figure out how to throw the punch to. Because it was both of them causing it, not Gokou himself.

I still think that has less to do with Beerus and Champa's power and the fact G.o.Ds aren't meant to fight each other. We know they can travel through universes and we know the rest of them hate Beerus and want to get at him because of the last time they were all together but they never do anything to him until they get the chance in the brief tournament. I feel it would be Zeno destroying both universes.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Post it.

Basically took his max power and multiplied it by what would be his remaining years.

The scan you posted was before he agreed to the deal that shortened his life span by 150 years.

He doesn't really say what he's multiplying it by though.

For all we know he could simply be adding an estimate of how strong he could become in 150 years based on his potential and current power level.

Originally posted by cdtm
He doesn't really say what he's multiplying it by though.

For all we know he could simply be adding an estimate of how strong he could become in 150 years based on his potential and current power level.

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Originally posted by cdtm
He doesn't really say what he's multiplying it by though.

For all we know he could simply be adding an estimate of how strong he could become in 150 years based on his potential and current power level.

Originally posted by Kento

Basically took his max power and multiplied it by what would be his remaining years.

The scan you posted was before he agreed to the deal that shortened his life span by 150 years.

How does his personal strength compare to The Others? You can Help a Baby reach its full potential in strength and he may still be weaker then a Full grown Man.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
How does his personal strength compare to The Others? You can Help a Baby reach its full potential in strength and he may still be weaker then a Full grown Man.

Originally posted by Kento
😕 The Dragon's literally saying that he's able to give him power beyond his potential, but at the cost of his life. No matter what he did in his 150 remaining years of life he would never have been as strong as he is now.

That still doesn't make Him Stronger then Goku or Vegeta. Just as Strong as HE COULD BE, Like When Gohan Got His Potential Granted.. .He was STILl Beneath Frieza. Or Krillin who Still was Far beneath Gohan.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
That still doesn't make Him Stronger then Goku or Vegeta. Just as Strong as HE COULD BE, Like When Gohan Got His Potential Granted.. .He was STILl Beneath Frieza. Or Krillin who Still was Far beneath Gohan.

Originally posted by Kento
What are you talking about? You showed that the Dragon literally tells him that his max potential cannot make him the strongest warrior. The Dragon didn't pull a Old Kaioshin, or Guru. This isn't some latent potential power. He wouldn't learn Hakai with just some unlocked potential.

It's like dudes can't read or something. The Dragon Stated What "He wished" Then told him only what he can do.He DID'NT make him the Universe Greatest Warrior because all he can do is Make him strong as HIS OWN potential

This is the Dragon Stating DUDES Desires

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
It's like dudes can't read or something. The Dragon Stated What "He wished" Then told him only what he can do.He DID'NT make him the Universe Greatest Warrior because all he can do is Make him strong as HIS OWN potential

This is the Dragon Stating DUDES Desires

Page 1
Dragon - "You wish to be the strongest life-form outside of the gods?"

Page 2
Dragon - "It is possible to make you stronger than you are but I cannot increase your power beyond your latent potential"
Granolah - "Does that mean I can't?"
Dragon - "Correct that is beyond your reach."

Page 3
Dragon - However.... It is possible for you to become the strongest if you agree to a certain condition.
Granolah - If it will make me become stronger than anyone else then I will do whatever it takes."

So, tell me how exactly the Dragon telling him that his latent potential is not strong enough to reach the levels to be the strongest warrior, means that he is only at his max potential in power? The first three pages literally spell it out. He didn't pull a Gon from HxH, he didn't get his latent power unlocked like Krillen and Gohan did by Guru.

Originally posted by Kento
Did you read the chapter?

Page 1
Dragon - "You wish to be the strongest life-form outside of the gods?"

Page 2
Dragon - "It is possible to make you stronger than you are but I cannot increase your power beyond your latent potential"
Granolah - "Does that mean I can't?"
Dragon - "Correct that is beyond your reach."

Page 3
Dragon - However.... It is possible for you to become the strongest if you agree to a certain condition.
Granolah - If it will make me become stronger than anyone else then I will do whatever it takes."

So, tell me how exactly the Dragon telling him that his latent potential is not strong enough to reach the levels to be the strongest warrior, means that he is only at his max potential in power? The first three pages literally spell it out. He didn't pull a Gon from HxH, he didn't get his latent power unlocked like Krillen and Gohan did by Guru.

"Agree to certain Conditions".. .show where That part is stated.

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Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
"Agree to certain Conditions".. .show where That part is stated.

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The wish is fairly straight forward. Granolah's full potential isn't enough to make him the strongest, as in if the dragon makes him reach his full potential now, he'll still be too weak.

What the dragon did instead, was take all of Granolah's potential power that he could have accumulated over the rest of his lifetime and condensed it into his current self.

Basically, every single potential instance of power Granolah could have acquired over the next 147 years is available to him now. It's not a multiplier, it's just straight up added to his current power.

So basically all of the energy or chi he could have ever gathered over the course of his whole life. Not "his potential" but the potential energy massed over the course of 147 years, put into him now.

Why doesn’t he just become an immortal?

https://www.quora.com/How-can-a-dragon-that-is-likely-weaker-than-Yamcha-make-Granola-into-the-universe-s-strongest-warrior/answer/Raxit-Chauhan-5?comment_id=190867945&comment_type=2&__filter__=all&__nsrc__=1&__sncid__=13418105458&__snid3__=19058181485

Read Dave Franco comment and response.

He's right. All the Dragon said is he'd unlock Granola's latent potential, the same way Krillin or Gohan unlocked theirs. They still need to train to get stronger.

Granola getting his potential unlocked would still require years of training. So the dragon let him skip all that and get access to his years of power, all at once.

So it means Toriyama expects us to forget the fact Master Roshi is 300 years old and could never be the strongest. Because that is exactly how Granola became the strongest, despite being so weak he can't repel a Saiyan invasion.

No, he just misunderstood the wish.

"We know he didn't simply add up all the power Granola could have gained over 150 years, because he flat out told Granola his potential isn't that high."

The dragon already stated that Granolah's latent potential at any one point in time isn't enough. The wish is that he's adding his latent potential at all points in time between now and the next potential 147 years.

Right, but the dragon can't add more power then it's capable of. Meaning he simply messed with time and gave him 150 years worth of training, all at once.

The dragons power added to that would be nothing, because the dragon is only as strong as the old namek that made him.

Yeah, hence why Granolah had to sacrifice his years. It wasn't just the dragon's power; there was a sacrifice.