Originally posted by Damborgson
oh...okay that's hard.KI itself is just the power within an opponent right?
Because if KI takes total stats into consideration, then Thor's low speed will make him depressingly low.
But taking power output into consideration:
1. Thor can pop planets and whatnot when he puts his back into it, so I'll put him at around 24,000, or Vegeta after he lost on Earth and fought Cui, Dodoria, Zarbon, etc.
2. Just getting pissed wouldn't actually increase his power, but if we take the 10x amp literally, I guess that would rocket him up to an Oozaru-like transformation of 10X. so like 240,000.
3. JMS OF Thor is very vague, he didn't show much of anything. But if we take into consideration stacking Odin's power on his own, he'd at the very least be at like 50,000
4. King Thor did indeed do things with the Odin Force.
Early in his career when he first started spraying eye beams and whatnot, I'd say he's around 240,000
End of his career, when he took off the Desak destroyer's head, I'd say he would rocket up to around 1,000,000
5. Herald Thor lol...
Hard to say. Popping a planet on him doesn't really phase him (though farmer with shotgun might given his fornite appearance)
but at base, with OF and PC stacked on him, I'd say he's around 2,000,000 or so.
with Galactus' power stacked ontop, I can't say. He beat a universe buster, so go from there...
6. Idk about RKT. Maybe around 2,000,000 himself.
The godblast can of course exceed these numbers like goku's kamehameha can do the same.
And they're all dumb and arbitrary of course.
Do you other Whorinson followers agree?
Originally posted by Damborgson
oh...okay that's hard.KI itself is just the power within an opponent right?
Because if KI takes total stats into consideration, then Thor's low speed will make him depressingly low.
But taking power output into consideration:
1. Thor can pop planets and whatnot when he puts his back into it, so I'll put him at around 24,000, or Vegeta after he lost on Earth and fought Cui, Dodoria, Zarbon, etc.
2. Just getting pissed wouldn't actually increase his power, but if we take the 10x amp literally, I guess that would rocket him up to an Oozaru-like transformation of 10X. so like 240,000.
3. JMS OF Thor is very vague, he didn't show much of anything. But if we take into consideration stacking Odin's power on his own, he'd at the very least be at like 50,000
4. King Thor did indeed do things with the Odin Force.
Early in his career when he first started spraying eye beams and whatnot, I'd say he's around 240,000
End of his career, when he took off the Desak destroyer's head, I'd say he would rocket up to around 1,000,000
5. Herald Thor lol...
Hard to say. Popping a planet on him doesn't really phase him (though farmer with shotgun might given his fornite appearance)
but at base, with OF and PC stacked on him, I'd say he's around 2,000,000 or so.
with Galactus' power stacked ontop, I can't say. He beat a universe buster, so go from there...
6. Idk about RKT. Maybe around 2,000,000 himself.
The godblast can of course exceed these numbers like goku's kamehameha can do the same.
And they're all dumb and arbitrary of course.
Well, look at Ultra Saiyan Trunks. High ki, slow speed.
So at least one example of ki not always channeling into speed.
Great Grape Ape Vegeta did not seem noticeable faster then Goku too, despite a MUCH higher power level.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
That's because the ki energy was specifically used to enhance his muscles to the point the bulkiness reduced his mobility.
His power level was said to be much higher, though.
I mean, Galan has personally argued the case that Trunks could take SSJ2 Gohan if the two stand there and have a ki battle, based on Cell's statements.
In theory, Trunks should have had ki to spare, if his raw power level was really that high.
Originally posted by cdtmThat was before I had considered the fact that Cell was massively suppressed when he fought USS Trunks. He [Cell] hadn't even started powering up yet.
His power level was said to be [b]much higher, though.I mean, Galan has personally argued the case that Trunks could take SSJ2 Gohan if the two stand there and have a ki battle, based on Cell's statements.
In theory, Trunks should have had ki to spare, if his raw power level was really that high. [/B]
Originally posted by Galan007
That was before I had considered the fact that Cell was massively suppressed when he fought USS Trunks. He [Cell] hadn't even started powering up yet.
Question for ya. Cell kamehameha against Gohan, before the attack went off, Cell mentioned that it was going to annihilate the solar system. This was said during the beginning of his attack. Once the attack fired, Cell was adding more power to it. Do you believe his attack was>>>>solar system busting based off this or are you limiting it to just that?