!!!The Official Dragon Ball vs. Comics Thread!!!

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
With thanks to Carvy.

Let's not forget who Thawne is:

Just mere statements, right? We go by FEATS here!

Casually sidestepping Barry, mocking him and telling him he's faster than him, literally dancing around his punches. I don't think I need to showcase Barry's speed feats, but if anybody needs a refresher course, I am down for that.

Even Batman himself says that for Thawne, what are moments for Batman are DAYS to Thawne.

So in short: despite it only being a second for Bruce, it could have been a day or so to Thawne's perception - and Batman was still fast enough to react to Thawne, and punch him straight in the face:

Batman, massively FTL there 👆

Thawne is a retard confirmed. Standing around for days in his perception to get punched by Batman.

Originally posted by Galan007
DB characters are fast, but they aren't high-end Flash fast.

Not only is he in a speed class far beyond everyone else, with agility and reaction to match. Which effectively makes everyone he'd fight a statue.

Originally posted by abhilegend
No, it's sixty trillion lightyears within half a second.

And Wally outraced it.

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-97bfc8256826ec19d625119f4e45428e

If for some reason someone could manage to keep up with him, then he could just leech the speed out of their body by touching them, widening that gap.

And if his opponent (who's can't react move) isn't hurt by the Infinite Mass Punches, which supposedly packs the mass of a small star, he can just casually phase out organs out of his opponents organs by vibrating. Which can also be used defensively to negate any physical damage he'd take if he for some reason was trapped.

And if that wasn't enough he can **** up the entire multiverse with his time travel.

But for some reason his writers decided to make his archenemies a dude who's really good at throwing boomerangs, a guy armed with freeze spray, an old man with a violin, and a guy who's really nifty with mirrors.

In later years that's somewhat gotten a better gauge on the Flash by introducing villains like the Reverse Flash and Godspeed. But those technically have the same powers as the Flash. Which really hits the point home that you really need to be like the Flash to compete with the Flash.

Originally posted by MrMind
It's just me and you buddy

Teaming-up with cdtm...?

Look how far you have fallen.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Thawne is a retard confirmed. Standing around for days in his perception to get punched by Batman.

Yet is a genius with a 167 IQ in the far future. You're right Goku would be annihilated.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yet is a genius with a 167 IQ in the far future. You're right Goku would be annihilated.

Start watching Dragon Ball.

Your opinion will change, just like Abhi's.

Goku is dumb though. And I don't mean he's not cool,I mean he's a literal dumb guy.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yet is a genius with a 167 IQ in the far future. You're right Goku would be annihilated.

Goku isn't written to be tard who forgets his speed. Speed is actually written properly in manga 99% of the time. If a guy is faster than your eyes can follow, you cant ever hit him in unless they allow you to or it's a sneak attack.

Comic writers dont care about power levels and will write any old shit to fill a panel. That's why you have the Ben Grimms of the world drawing blood from Hulk who is billions of times stronger. There is no need for a hand waving justification that "well ben is strong too! And he has heart!". They just follow more logical power scaling.

That's how you have Thawne being fast enough to casually phase through a Batman punch and get hit by a batman punch in the same page.

Batman cant be so slow that he admits he is essentially the speed of algae compared to Thawne yet fast enough to punch Thawne at the same time.

Pick one.

The laziness and poor education of American comic writers on display isn't giving Batman FTL speeds. This is the same guy that admits to be at threat from gunfire every night.

PIS and SMvsFL are terms for a reason. Unfortunately for Batman that's a chunk of his history outside of his self contained books.

Also, Goku may be a tard in the general sense from his lack of education but he is a fighting genius, unlike Thawe who cant seem to decide if he is millions of times faster than batman or equal. Maybe Thawe is a masochist and loves pain.

That's a lot of words to say 'PIS'.

Which unfortunately for you, is what cdtm specifically said Batman can have.

What makes you think I'm responding to anything that lunatic said?

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Teaming-up with cdtm...?

Look how far you have fallen.

I'm on a serious bender i need to get off

Originally posted by CosmicComet
What makes you think I'm responding to anything that lunatic said?

Lol fair enough.

I'm just responding to the stips he laid down, and I agree that Zoom/Batman is PIS.

But under his stips, Batman annihilates. Under his stips, Batman is able to vanish from in front of MMH/Superman whilst they're looking at him, is able to take suckerblows froma bloodlusted amped WW without his armour and whilst injured, can tag speedsters who casually run literal rings around the top speedsters of DC, can outrun HV after its fired, has tech that rewrites DNA on the fly, knows magic that depowers some of the top sorceresses etc etc...

😂

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Goku isn't written to be tard who forgets his speed. Speed is actually written properly in manga 99% of the time. If a guy is faster than your eyes can follow, you cant ever hit him in unless they allow you to or it's a sneak attack.

Comic writers dont care about power levels and will write any old shit to fill a panel. That's why you have the Ben Grimms of the world drawing blood from Hulk who is billions of times stronger. There is no need for a hand waving justification that "well ben is strong too! And he has heart!". They just follow more logical power scaling.

That's how you have Thawne being fast enough to casually phase through a Batman punch and get hit by a batman punch in the same page.

Batman cant be so slow that he admits he is essentially the speed of algae compared to Thawne yet fast enough to punch Thawne at the same time.

Pick one.

The laziness and poor education of American comic writers on display isn't giving Batman FTL speeds. This is the same guy that admits to be at threat from gunfire every night.

PIS and SMvsFL are terms for a reason. Unfortunately for Batman that's a chunk of his history outside of his self contained books.

This right here and that is why Dark post is ignore.

Originally posted by carver9
This right here and that is why Dark post is ignore.

Lmao.

Originally posted by cdtm
Lets go with this for real.

Batman vs Son Goku.

1. Batman gets one sided prep, and gets to pick the time and place. Goku doesn't know he's in a fight.

2. Actual fight. Gotham city, full of people, Goku and Batman are in character. CIS and PIS are on.

Who wins?

With CIS and PIS on, Batman gets ALL of his showings. ALL. I don't even need to know the DragonBallz, to own Carv. Sad!

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW

Hahahhaah

Hey Dark... Batman on his best day cant touch Goku, let alone see him move.

YouTube video

Batman on his best PIS day can touch Zoom, who casually runs rings around Flash.

Only have a few minutes right now, but will say CosmicComet is wrong about speed being written properly in comics 99% of the time.

If this was true, people at those Budokai's would demand refunds because they'd think they're staring at an empty arena. Characters see and react to far more powerful characters in Dragon Ball all the time.

Take this example:

YouTube video

Recoome was how much stronger then Krillin and Gohan? Yet Gohan was fast enough to pull Vegeta out of the way AFTED he fired off his beam, while Krillin nailed him on top of his head, actually stunning him enough to force his mouth shut.

You can cry "sneak attack" all you want, the fact is Krillin had to be fast enough to pull the strike off between Recoome's opening, strong enough for him to feel it, and Gohan certainly had to be faster then his beam.

This is one example. I can post many, many more from across Dragon Ball canon.

The "can't see him move" trope is actually the uncommon one, not the ability to see and react to higher powered characters..