!!!The Official Dragon Ball vs. Comics Thread!!!

Started by AlbertoJohnAvil298 pages
Originally posted by DarkSaint85

strangely enough Ambrose just about as big of a glass cannon as the DBZ characters. As long as he's attentive nobody is touching him.

Originally posted by Galan007
Mr. Satan is still absurdly strong, all jokes aside.

That's assuming his feats are legit and not lame faked stunts.

Originally posted by Galan007
Outside of the Z fighters, he's the strongest on earth(pretty sure Toriyama stated such in an interview.)

He also said that Bob Sapp would sodomize him...

Even you, with your numerous fractures, could hospitalize Sapp (without needing to land a hit once).

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Well, Satan did walk off getting slapped into a mountain.

Comic relief, nothing more.

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Again, Tori believes this guy is stronger than Satan, lol.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
That's assuming his feats are legit and not lame faked stunts.

He also said that Bob Sapp would sodomize him...

Even you, with your numerous fractures, could hospitalize Sapp (without needing to land a hit once).

😂

Pretty sure when Mr. Satan punched the hitting machine during the WMAT(Boo saga) he had the highest number out of anyone there(barring the Z fighters, obvs.) So I do think he is the strongest 'normal guy' on DB earth.

Forgot about that.

That's some proof, unless he ordered the operators to tinker with the machine before his striking power test.

I liked his fight against Bee killers, no way he could've faked *that* (even though he did get shot at first after the failed speedblitz attempt).

All I know is, I'm very disappointed no Hercule Satan in Fighter Z yet.

One of the reasons I still pull out Budokai 3 from time to time.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
I think Videl is stronger after training with Gohan

Safe guess.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Forgot about that.

That's some proof, unless he ordered the operators to tinker with the machine before his striking power test.

I liked his fight against Bee killers, no way he could've faked *that* (even though he did get shot at first after the failed speedblitz attempt).

Well the Z fighters were casually tapping the machine afterward and generating far higher numbers than Mr. Satan had, so I doubt the machine had been tampered with.

Satan would never fight his own daughter at full strength either. I think we'd never find out from a fight.

Originally posted by Galan007
Well the Z fighters were casually tapping the machine afterward and generating far higher numbers than Mr. Satan had, so I doubt the machine had been tampered with.

Yeah, I remember. That's when they started adjusting the machine, believing it was broken.

I still wouldn't be surprised if it turned out Satan bribed them to falsify his score, though. But it's just my headcanon, as I have no on-panel or on-screen proof.

Originally posted by cdtm
We don't know how Kami fixed the moon, but its most likely he used the Dragon for it, same as anyone else.

Shenron outright said that the wishes he grants are within Kami's power. Or more specifically that he couldn't grant wishes outside of Kami's power.

Originally posted by Astner
Shenron outright said that the wishes he grants are within Kami's power. Or more specifically that he couldn't grant wishes outside of Kami's power.

Beyond his power = power level.

It doesn't mean Kami could wave his hand and grant wishes. If it did, the current Kami needing the dragon never would have been a plot point, they'd just take care of it themselves.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Yeah, I remember. That's when they started adjusting the machine, believing it was broken.

I still wouldn't be surprised if it turned out Satan bribed them to falsify his score, though. But it's just my headcanon, as I have no on-panel or on-screen proof.

Satan never really did anything that underhanded though.

Android #18 offered, and other characters offered to take a fall. But Satan was never really a scumbag about it where he'd look for ways to squeek a win.

He legitimately believed in his skills, and saw the Z people at monsterous freaks of nature. Or con artists using a gimmick. As would anyone who doesn't know them.

Originally posted by cdtm
Beyond his power = power level.

It doesn't mean Kami could wave his hand and grant wishes. If it did, the current Kami needing the dragon never would have been a plot point, they'd just take care of it themselves.

Beyond HIS power level. Kami is like, what, 1000 or so in power level and his Dragon have fts on a planetary level. Speaks volumes.

Originally posted by carver9
Beyond HIS power level. Kami is like, what, 1000 or so in power level and his Dragon have fts on a planetary level. Speaks volumes.

And it put together the moon when Kami was in the low hundreds.

The Eternal Dragon is a special case though. It operates off Kami's power level, but can perform feats well outside his capability.

The Dragons limitations arw also a good example of how lacking in the brains department Dragon Ball is.

Imagine if Lex Luthor was there in the Saiyan Saga.

"Kill the Saiyans"

"I can not do that, it exceeds my power level"

"Hmm.. Then destroy the Saiyan pods"

"Done"

They die in space. And the Saiyan Saga is over.

Freeza Saga: "Teleport a sun on top of Namek"

"Teleport Freeza into a black hole"

"Make a black hole in Freeza's brain"

"Make me into a Saiyan with 1000x Zenkai potential"

Originally posted by cdtm
Satan never really did anything that underhanded though.

Android #18 offered, and other characters offered to take a fall. But Satan was never really a scumbag about it where he'd look for ways to squeek a win.

He legitimately believed in his skills, and saw the Z people at monsterous freaks of nature. Or con artists using a gimmick. As would anyone who doesn't know them.

You're forgetting that pre-Z martial artists were superior to Satan, too.

Satan was more of a careerman and a showman than a legitimate fighter and he was aware of it to an extent.