!!!The Official Dragon Ball vs. Comics Thread!!!

Originally posted by Enzeru
Because neither Goku nor Vegeta will be able to fire a planetbusting Kamehameha at Gladiator / Wonder Woman / Hyperion / Shazam, before they get their faces smashed in. It takes them too long to charge those attacks.

Because neither Gladiator, nor Wonder Woman, nor Hyperion, nor Shazam will die from a planetary explosion. Hyperion has survived the explosion of two universes. Thor has survived being at the center of planets being shattered and blowing up. And because once a planet is gone Goku / Vegeta and a good chunk of other Dragonball characters die in deep space.

Imagine Gladiator or Hyperion grabbing Goku from behind and starting to squeeze. Do you honestly believe that Goku would ever be able to free himself? If you do, then you really haven't read Dragonball at all. Vegeta failed to lift a 1000 ton heavy robot. Got smacked in the head and then ran away crying. Beerus also said that he wouldn't be able to lift the robot.
Gladiator / Hyperion grabs Goku / Vegeta once and shatters his bones effortlessly. That's not even debatable. And Gokus and Vegetas only way of winning is powering up enough energy to kill the high heralds... even though someone like Hyperion survived much more damage. And then Goku and Vegeta also need to pray to Zeno that they don't die in deep open space, once the planet is gone.

The only argument a Dragonball fanboy has is: "HURRR DURRR, WITH A POWER LEVEL OF 96 MUTEN ROSHI DESTROYED A MOON AND GOKU HAD A POWER LEVEL OF 1207 SHORTY AFTER. 1207 x 20 DUE TO HIS KAIOKEN IS LIKE 24140 AND THEN ALSO x 50 FROM THE SUPER SAIYAN FORM IS LIKE 1207000. AND THEN SUPER SAIYAN 3 IS LIKE x400, SO THAT'S LIKE A POWER LEVEL OF 482800000 AND WITH SUPER SAIYAN 4 SUPER SAIYAN GOLD SUPER SAIYAN GOD SUPER SAIYAN 2.5 GOD SUPER SAIYAN BEING LIKE OVER 9000000000. So as you can see Goku easily kills Galactus."

Get the **** out of here.

All of that is head canon. Both Goku and Vegeta have Faster Versions of they attack. The Build up is to ATTAIN a certain level of attack but whose to say that's needed in a battle with said Characters? You keep saying what others "survived"
And? They're either Knocked out or Hurt badly. Can they survive 2 or 20?
Nobody's grabbing Goku and Holding him, a powerup fixes that.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
All of that is head canon. Both Goku and Vegeta have Faster Versions of they attack. The Build up is to ATTAIN a certain level of attack but whose to say that's needed in a battle with said Characters? You keep saying what others "survived"
And? They're either Knocked out or Hurt badly. Can they survive 2 or 20?
Nobody's grabbing Goku and Holding him, a powerup fixes that.

Vegeta was powered up to blue when he failed to lift 1,000 ton Magetta

Hulk can lift that much weight with his pinky.

Originally posted by carver9
Is anyone reading Enzuru posts?

Don't read them Carver. There's facts in them!

We know how much you hate facts.

Originally posted by cdtm
Vegeta was powered up to blue when he failed to lift 1,000 ton Magetta

Hulk can lift that much weight with his pinky.

😂 Vegeta would blow a hole in Hulk or worse

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
I Bet Goku has to exert Less Energy then Sentry or ANY other powerhouse to Destroy a World

Just look at how casually 1st form Freeza(PL=530k) destroyed planet Vegeta, then just scale up from there. It doesn't take rocket science to grasp the concept that destroying planets was absolutely nothing to the noteworthy Z fighters as far back as the Namek saga.

And like I've said ad nauseam: there's also the fact that collateral damage isn't at all indicative of a blast's potency in DB... As beautifully depicted here:

Originally posted by Galan007
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Another example is when Freeza destroyed the earth during RoF, and was then stated to have survived the kablooey:

https://i.imgur.com/vTqlKxe.jpg

*cut to*

Whis rewinds time, and Goku kills Freeza with an energy blast that 'only' produced...I dunno...the collateral damage of a small missile?

But given that Freeza had survived planetary destruction just before that, we know the potency of Goku's blast MUST have been >>> planet-level by default(collateral damage be damned.)

Showings like that are why we can assume the strength of various blasts in DB, even when there is very minor collateral damage produced by the attack(s) in question... Like Raditz no-selling what was logically a moon-buster from Piccolo, for instance.

It is absolutely hysterical to me that people STILL try to lowball DB "CuZ dA cOlLaTeRaL dAmAgE!!!!!!!", instead of putting their bias aside for a moment and looking at the bigger picture. Heh.

Originally posted by Enzeru
Because neither Goku nor Vegeta will be able to fire a planetbusting Kamehameha at Gladiator / Wonder Woman / Hyperion / Shazam, before they get their faces smashed in. It takes them too long to charge those attacks.

Because neither Gladiator, nor Wonder Woman, nor Hyperion, nor Shazam will die from a planetary explosion. Hyperion has survived the explosion of two universes. Thor has survived being at the center of planets being shattered and blowing up. And because once a planet is gone Goku / Vegeta and a good chunk of other Dragonball characters die in deep space.

Imagine Gladiator or Hyperion grabbing Goku from behind and starting to squeeze. Do you honestly believe that Goku would ever be able to free himself? If you do, then you really haven't read Dragonball at all. Vegeta failed to lift a 1000 ton heavy robot. Got smacked in the head and then ran away crying. Beerus also said that he wouldn't be able to lift the robot.
Gladiator / Hyperion grabs Goku / Vegeta once and shatters his bones effortlessly. That's not even debatable. And Gokus and Vegetas only way of winning is powering up enough energy to kill the high heralds... even though someone like Hyperion survived much more damage. And then Goku and Vegeta also need to pray to Zeno that they don't die in deep open space, once the planet is gone.

The only argument a Dragonball fanboy has is: "HURRR DURRR, WITH A POWER LEVEL OF 96 MUTEN ROSHI DESTROYED A MOON AND GOKU HAD A POWER LEVEL OF 1207 SHORTY AFTER. 1207 x 20 DUE TO HIS KAIOKEN IS LIKE 24140 AND THEN ALSO x 50 FROM THE SUPER SAIYAN FORM IS LIKE 1207000. AND THEN SUPER SAIYAN 3 IS LIKE x400, SO THAT'S LIKE A POWER LEVEL OF 482800000 AND WITH SUPER SAIYAN 4 SUPER SAIYAN GOLD SUPER SAIYAN GOD SUPER SAIYAN 2.5 GOD SUPER SAIYAN BEING LIKE OVER 9000000000. So as you can see Goku easily kills Galactus."

Get the **** out of here.

Lmao. I mean.... without knowing much about DB, this sounds hilarious. Does chime with the memes about DB episodes taking months to finish a fight lol.

YouTube video

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lmao. I mean.... without knowing much about DB, this sounds hilarious.

I cant see anyone in DC. Not a single person (especially Marvel) pulling this off.

/xz5LDtluNUU

Originally posted by carver9
I cant see anyone in DC. Not a single person (especially Marvel) pulling this off.

/xz5LDtluNUU

Yes Carver, we know you don't read comics.

Flash's have vibrated through objects since forever. They've moved faster then Superman can see them move.

Originally posted by carver9
I cant see anyone in DC. Not a single person (especially Marvel) pulling this off.

/xz5LDtluNUU

WTF, carver.

Zolomon is so fast, Wally/Jay didn't even see a blur:

Wally is so fast he can leave, time travel, and get back before anyone else knows he's left:

Wally can move and hide so quickly, Thawne was unable to see him:

Superman is so fast, he can take WW's shitty gift, fly to his present room, do all manner of tasks, before WW even realises:

Are you an idiot?

You know, carver actually can make some solid points about DB.

...But then he says stuff like that. ermm

Originally posted by cdtm
Yes Carver, we know you don't read comics.

Flash's have vibrated through objects since forever. They've moved faster then Superman can see them move.

He's not even vibrating his molecules to phase. He's just moving so fast they can't see him move.

Originally posted by Galan007
You know, carver actually can make some solid points about DB.

When he's shamelessly copy-pasting your posts, like some teenage fangirl with eternally wet pussy for that 007 firehose?

Or entirely on his own?

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
When he's shamelessly copy-pasting your posts, like some teenage fangirl with eternally wet pussy for that 007 firehose?

Or entirely on his own?

weakest in comics who could beat dbs broly for a majority?

You'd need some cosmic entities or dudes with hax powers or magic.

any specific characters come to mind?

Master Order, Lord Chaos?

Classic Dr. Strange?

Mad Jim Jaspers?