Originally posted by SurturActually you're the one who seems most concerned about the term court packing and whether or not it is being used correctly.
What more is there to say? You didn't prove it was court packing. You showed the republicans are hypocrites, big shocker. Democrats are too.Why is this the hill you wanna die on? Why not just say "they played dirty" without lying about the court packing? What do you gain?
If you understand what the intention was behind these comments why care so much about it?
Originally posted by Robtard
And the Democrats won't be breaking any rules either should they proceed. So good. Glad we cleared that up.
If the democrats control the senate , house and potus then republican tears can fill a river and it won't matter. If they create a new set of laws to pack the courts and the president signs it, there you go.
Originally posted by snowdragon
They are hypocrites, so far I don't find that a unique quality confined to republicans so I don't see how that is even something to worry about, more to the point. Republicans didn't have to use "whatever power" they had, they had the majority that's all they needed, no dancing around, no rule bending required.
Again this is what baffles me. I didn't say they weren't hypocrites, but them being hypocrites about filling the seat doesn't mean they packed the court. It means they played hardball with an already vacant seat. They did not add new seats to the SC.
How is that not the end of it? And I don't know who is saying it would be against the rules to court pack, but I know it wasn't me and it wasn't you.
As far as what is and isn’t court packing goes, I think packing is kind of a weird term to use to describe what the dems are doing and if you go by how the word “packing” is generally used what McConnell did during Trump’s term is more akin to what the word actually means. Packing is generally used to describe filling something to capacity, not changing how big that capacity is. Like if you say you’re going to pack the trunk of your car or that it’s “packed” that just means it’s full. You’re not increasing the size of it. What McConnel did is fill a lot of court vacancies that were open without adding to the number on the court. What the dems want to do is expand the court and it should really be described as such.
Just semantics but whatever
Originally posted by BackFire
As far as what is and isn’t court packing goes, I think packing is kind of a weird term to use to describe what the dems are doing and if you go by how the word “packing” is generally used what McConnell did during Trump’s term is more akin to what the word actually means. Packing is generally used to describe filling something to capacity, not changing how big that capacity is. Like if you say you’re going to pack the trunk of your car or that it’s “packed” that just means it’s full. You’re not increasing the size of it. What McConnel did is fill a lot of court vacancies that were open without adding to the number on the court. What the dems want to do is expand the court and it should really be described as such.Just semantics but whatever
That sounds reasonable. Either way, it won't be wrong or illegal should the Democrats choose to proceed as there's no laws being broken and precedent was set.
Originally posted by Newjak
Actually you're the one who seems most concerned about the term court packing and whether or not it is being used correctly.If you understand what the intention was behind these comments why care so much about it?
^Same side that threw a fit over the term "sexual preference" now says this.
So we move on, there clearly will be nothing gained here and no minds changed. Not with this lunacy. I am not going to debate people about what words mean all because the current definitions do not suit the propaganda they wanna spout.
Originally posted by BackFire
As far as what is and isn’t court packing goes, I think packing is kind of a weird term to use to describe what the dems are doing and if you go by how the word “packing” is generally used what McConnell did during Trump’s term is more akin to what the word actually means. Packing is generally used to describe filling something to capacity, not changing how big that capacity is. Like if you say you’re going to pack the trunk of your car or that it’s “packed” that just means it’s full. You’re not increasing the size of it. What McConnel did is fill a lot of court vacancies that were open without adding to the number on the court. What the dems want to do is expand the court and it should really be described as such.Just semantics but whatever
When the democrats talk about packing the court they mean adding new seats to the supreme court. That is what they mean when they scream like babies in reaction to ACB, correct?
So why would we not apply that definition?
It's not hard. Democrats want to add seats to the SC. That is what they mean when they say Biden should pack the courts.
Why is this even a debate? Just use another f*cking word for christs sake. You don't need to call it court packing, say it was dirty politics, say he played hardball with the seat. You have plenty of options I suggest you use your massive intellects and pick one.
I’m just saying it’s a strange term to use for that. I don’t know who came up with it but it’s odd usage of the word. Expanding the court sounds more accurate as far as common usage of words go. I’m not saying that what McConnel did is the same as what the dems are suggesting. Just questioning the odd word usage.
Originally posted by Robtard
@surt Call it whatever you like, Republicans have added seats to the SC. So what's wrong problem?
What year was the last time they added a new seat to the SC?
And notice I never said it's against the rules. I mean, why do I need to constantly repeat shit? I said they'd regret it cuz repubs will just do it next time they get a chance. Pay attention.
Originally posted by Surtur
What year was the last time they added a new seat to the SC?
Let me assist you in your query: www.google.com
Originally posted by BackFire
I’m just saying it’s a strange term to use for that. I don’t know who came up with it but it’s odd usage of the word. Expanding the court sounds more accurate as far as common usage of words go. I’m not saying that what McConnel did is the same as what the dems are suggesting. Just questioning the odd word usage.
At the end of the day they can't have it both ways. They can't have it mean adding new seats and then all of a sudden it means just playing politics to fill vacant seats, etc. That in itself is a weasel tactic so it makes them crying about Mitch being a weasel seem hypocritical too.
Especially not after they just threw a hissy fit over ACB using the "wrong" words. Either words matter or they do not. IMO they need to decide.
Originally posted by SurturLet's see a discussion on whether court packing is a meaningful comparison of the GOP doing everything in their power to fill court seats, even if it makes them hypocrites, to the democrats adding additional seats.
^Same side that threw a fit over the term "sexual preference" now says this.So we move on, there clearly will be nothing gained here and no minds changed. Not with this lunacy. I am not going to debate people about what words mean all because the current definitions do not suit the propaganda they wanna spout.
Vs
A term that had been traditionally used by conservatives as a means to deprive certain citizens of their basic human rights.
Yeah clearly case of apples to apples here.
No wonder I turned away from conservatism and the Republican party in the US.