Red Son Superman vs WW Hulk

Originally posted by abhilegend
So despite the fact that Superman has been stated several times under Bendis to hold back in Metropolis, he suddenly stops holding back? Despite the fact that the phrasing means the Kryptonians are full powered, not that the attack is done at the full power.

No wonder you're a moron.

Bendis never mentioned ANYTHING about Superman holding back in this comic, ever. So that's completely irrelevant, and no the phrase full power meant that the attack they launched is at their peak. Full power doesn't mean "let me still hide my strength"

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
The madder Hulk gets, his speed also increases. Not remotely PIS

Oh?

So Professor Hulk is vastly faster than Spectrum? And WWh is what, massively FTL now?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Oh?

So Professor Hulk is vastly faster than Spectrum? And WWh is what, massively FTL now?

My point is that Hulk doesn't have a set limit to his speed

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
My point is that Hulk doesn't have a set limit to his speed

Ah so a no limits fallacy. Got ya.

Infinite Speed Hulk 😂

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Bendis never mentioned ANYTHING about Superman holding back in this comic, ever. So that's completely irrelevant, and no the phrase full power meant that the attack they launched is at their peak. Full power doesn't mean "let me still hide my strength"

Also no, they are at full power. Doesn't mean their every attack is at full power because Superman always holds back in metropolis.

Shut up already.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
My point is that Hulk doesn't have a set limit to his speed

Originally posted by abhilegend
"This comic" doesn't exists in a vacuum idiot.

Also no, they are at full power. Doesn't mean their every attack is at full power because Superman always holds back in metropolis.

Shut up already.

The narration mentioned they were working TOGETHER i.e it wasn't EACH attack, it was combined. Which is hilariously laughable 😂

Originally posted by abhilegend
Where is it stated that his speed increases with anger, troll?

It's called reading a comic that involves Hulk, try it sometime son

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
The narration mentioned they were working TOGETHER i.e it wasn't EACH attack, it was combined. Which is hilariously laughable 😂

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
It's called reading a comic that involves Hulk, try it sometime son

I've read literally every hulk comic you moron.

Show one statement that Hulk's speed increases with anger.

Pr... look at the debating thats happening in this thread but I mention what Surfer is capable of and you mentioned something about that. This is the type of thread I'm talking about. KMC, turned into powerset only debating. Why does it fly here? Isn't this the type of debating you said shouldn't be taking place on the forum?

Originally posted by abhilegend
And all of them hold back in populated cities.
😂

I've read literally every hulk comic you moron.

Originally posted by carver9
Pr... look at the debating thats happening in this thread but I mention what Surfer is capable of and you mentioned something about that. This is the type of thread I'm talking about. KMC, turned into powerset only debating. Why does it fly here? Isn't this the type of debating you said shouldn't be taking place on the forum?

As laughable as I think it is that you of all people are bringing this up, you're not wrong.

I don't even know why this is a thread anyway. Red Son does not have a lot of good feats.

Originally posted by -Pr-

As laughable as I think it is that you of all people are bringing this up, you're not wrong.

I don't even know why this is a thread anyway. Red Son does not have a lot of good feats.

Lol... im one of your most honest posters. I dont think anyone should be laughing at truth. I just wanted to see if you agreed.

🙂

In my many years of reluctant occasional reading of Superman (I'm sometimes forced to in order to follow a dope arc) he rarely shows off speed vs opponents. He's Goku stupid like that. Like he plays fair. He does have insane speed feats but most aren't combat related.

Originally posted by -Pr-

As laughable as I think it is that you of all people are bringing this up, you're not wrong.

I don't even know why this is a thread anyway. Red Son does not have a lot of good feats.

He flew 15million miles in like 55 seconds.

When he fought Bizarro, the world was at a standstill.

When he fought Hal, he specifically said he was 10x the speed of thought.

Sure, I mean they're not THAT great. But he had a good couple of feats in like 7 or so issues. Plus he didn't exactly hold back when faced with enemies.

Originally posted by -Pr-

I don't even know why this is a thread anyway. Red Son does not have a lot of good feats.

you know u was going to say that but i said to myself let them have their fun.

Originally posted by -Pr-

As laughable as I think it is that you of all people are bringing this up, you're not wrong.

I don't even know why this is a thread anyway. Red Son does not have a lot of good feats.

So this is spetz' post.

Originally posted by spetznaz
You guys are going at it the wrong way. Sure, we all know Alberto had it wrong on how effective a Kryptonian would be against the Hulk, but I don’t want to use that angle. He may ignore it.

What I would want to know is how exactly he thinks the Hulk - in a forum fight - would even be able to tag a Kryptonian into be first place?

Again, in a forum setting.

Unless he was serious when he said a thunderclap. An attack moving at the speed of sound may not even be effective against lesser characters.

Anyway, I doubt he (or any Hulk supporter) will respond, but I am genuinely curious how - in a forum fight - they expect one-dimensional slow characters to effectively engage multi-dimensional hyper-fast characters.

Maybe ‘thunderclap’ was a serious response after all. Against a character whose spit could probably go through the Hulk’s skull.

Literally.

He's asking how would Hulk tag Superman in a forum fight - in short, a Superman who is using his speed defensively.

So what speed does he have?

Fast enough to intercept bullets at point blank range:

That alone is faster than WWH (and this is to you too Sin!! *kisses*). But meh.

Finds it easy to think at trans light speeds:

Meh.

In the fight with Bizarro, they're in a timestop (as is usual for their kind when decisions have to be made):

When standing next to Piotr, by the time his words have reached Piotr's ears, he's already changed his clothes, is 800 miles away, has stopped two trains from colliding and has already spotted 3 other emergencies:
https://i.postimg.cc/NMPLVDwn/Y9zjpi4.jpg

Is 10x faster than the speed of thought, and shows it in battle with GLs:

In ~55 seconds, grabs Brainiac's ship and pulls it 15 million miles away. Then survives six mini black holes exploding.

.....

Sure, as stories go with feats, its no All Star Superman. But he demonstrated enough to show he's pretty fast and durable enough, and he's also smart enough to use BFR (oh, did I wait until we're past the 2nd page to bring this up???) if needed.

Edit: should read, 'when approaching trans light speeds'. Point still stands - he's much faster by statements, narration and feats.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol... im one of your most honest posters. I dont think anyone should be laughing at truth. I just wanted to see if you agreed.

🙂

You're one of the worst offenders for powerset debating, which is why I made that point.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
you know u was going to say that but i said to myself let them have their fun.

Well I'm not leaning towards closing it, so it's not that bad.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
He flew 15million miles in like 55 seconds.

When he fought Bizarro, the world was at a standstill.

When he fought Hal, he specifically said he was 10x the speed of thought.

Sure, I mean they're not THAT great. But he had a good couple of feats in like 7 or so issues. Plus he didn't exactly hold back when faced with enemies.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So this is spetz' post.

He's asking how would Hulk tag Superman in a forum fight - in short, a Superman who is using his speed defensively.

So what speed does he have?

Fast enough to intercept bullets at point blank range:

That alone is faster than WWH (and this is to you too Sin!! *kisses*). But meh.

Finds it easy to think at trans light speeds:

Meh.

In the fight with Bizarro, they're in a timestop (as is usual for their kind when decisions have to be made):

When standing next to Piotr, by the time his words have reached Piotr's ears, he's already changed his clothes, is 800 miles away, has stopped two trains from colliding and has already spotted 3 other emergencies:
https://i.postimg.cc/NMPLVDwn/Y9zjpi4.jpg

Is 10x faster than the speed of thought, and shows it in battle with GLs:

In ~55 seconds, grabs Brainiac's ship and pulls it 15 million miles away. Then survives six mini black holes exploding.

.....

Sure, as stories go with feats, its no All Star Superman. But he demonstrated enough to show he's pretty fast and durable enough, and he's also smart enough to use BFR (oh, did I wait until we're past the 2nd page to bring this up???) if needed.

Oh, he's definitely a herald. I just don't see the point of having threads about him. Maybe it's just me.