Red Son Superman vs WW Hulk

Started by DarkSaint8512 pages

Or read comics in general. I mean, street tiers do punch flurries all the time - art alone doesn't denote speed. This may be why people don't think Superman has combat speed, just because of pretty pictures.

Originally posted by -Pr-
The question was asked in good faith. Trying to change the subject implies a lack of knowledge of belief in your side of the argument.

Well, Carver, if you'd actually read Superman comics, you'd have seen examples, wouldn't you?

Lol... the list of comics im reading through right now. I have enough scans right now to recreate both Superman and Hulk respect thread.

https://ibb.co/S5sC2pV

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Or read comics in general. I mean, street tiers do punch flurries all the time - art alone doesn't denote speed. This may be why people don't think Superman has combat speed, just because of pretty pictures.

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Originally posted by carver9
Lol... the list of comics im reading through right now. I have enough scans right now to recreate both Superman and Hulk respect thread.

https://ibb.co/S5sC2pV

To do a respect thread you'd have to actually respect the character. That's kind of the point.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol... the list of comics im reading through right now. I have enough scans right now to recreate both Superman and Hulk respect thread.

https://ibb.co/S5sC2pV


After 16 years on this site, you're going to read these comics?

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Originally posted by -Pr-
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To do a respect thread you'd have to actually respect the character. That's kind of the point.

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Originally posted by abhilegend
After 16 years on this site, you're going to read these comics?

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I'm reading through ALL of the comics. Starting from the beginning. ALL...OF...THEM. Been 6 + months so far and I'm still going. I've been posting stuff I've found on this site for Hulk. Like him surviving that scream without damage that took out nearby suns. 🙂

Kinda weird that you're not reading them in order....

Originally posted by -Pr-
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To do a respect thread you'd have to actually respect the character. That's kind of the point.

All seriousness do you think people GENIUNELY respect the concept of Superman? Because let's be real,not one person on this planet can say Superman is an "interesting" character with a straight face.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
All seriousness do you think people GENIUNELY respect the concept of Superman? Because let's be real,not one person on this planet can say Superman is an "interesting" character with a straight face.

And yet, here I go:

I think Superman is an interesting character.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil😂
All seriousness do you think people GENIUNELY respect the concept of Superman? Because let's be real,not one person on this planet can say Superman is an "interesting" character with a straight face.

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Oh and you asked me to give you a couple before you were going to teach about black holes. The couple over yet?

Originally posted by -Pr-
And yet, here I go:

I think Superman is an interesting character.

😂 Really? BECAUSE Superman doesn't sell comics. Daredevil shouldn't be selling 45k-50k and Superman selling 35k-40k averaging out. Daredevil hardly gets any push or attention overall and yet Superman does and he sells less. figures eh?

Superman should be outselling Daredevil. How much attention Superman gets and the budget his books get. Yet Daredevil has lesser teams behind him and lower budgets and outsells Superman for the past 20 years. Unless it's a number 1 or a special issue Superman doesn't sell. Wanna know why? Because. He's. not. Interesting.

Marvel has 63 % of the market of comics. DC only has 33%.
Marvel movies wise hit 15 billion in revenue in 10 years. DC hasn't hit that in 46 years of movies.
Hell even merch wise Spider-Man outsells every DC hero combined

Batman LITERALLY is their only one moving merchandise. That's not good 😆 But yet whenever somebody "hate" on Superman Its an issue
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/superhero-earns-13-billion-a-748281#:~:text=Both%20have%20strong%20properties%3A%20The,and%20Superman%20at%20%24277%20million.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
😂 Really? BECAUSE Superman doesn't sell comics. Daredevil shouldn't be selling 45k-50k and Superman selling 35k-40k averaging out. Daredevil hardly gets any push or attention overall and yet Superman does and he sells less. figures eh?

Superman should be outselling Daredevil. How much attention Superman gets and the budget his books get. Yet Daredevil has lesser teams behind him and lower budgets and outsells Superman for the past 20 years. Unless it's a number 1 or a special issue Superman doesn't sell. Wanna know why? Because. He's. not. Interesting.

Marvel has 63 % of the market of comics. DC only has 33%.
Marvel movies wise hit 15 billion in revenue in 10 years. DC hasn't hit that in 46 years of movies.
Hell even merch wise Spider-Man outsells every DC hero combined

Batman LITERALLY is their only one moving merchandise. That's not good 😆 But yet whenever somebody "hate" on Superman Its an issue
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/superhero-earns-13-billion-a-748281#:~:text=Both%20have%20strong%20properties%3A%20The,and%20Superman%20at%20%24277%20million.

you’re a known liar. Show these numbers that marvel comics are selling 60+ percent.
Marvel has DC cinema beat because of Disney. Better stories and they own the critics.

Originally posted by -Pr-
And yet, here I go:

I think Superman is an interesting character.

YouTube video

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
All seriousness do you think people GENIUNELY respect the concept of Superman? Because let's be real,not one person on this planet can say Superman is an "interesting" character with a straight face.

😂

Originally posted by carver9
I'm reading through ALL of the comics. Starting from the beginning. ALL...OF...THEM. Been 6 + months so far and I'm still going. I've been posting stuff I've found on this site for Hulk. Like him surviving that scream without damage that took out nearby suns. 🙂

I had read all of them in the first month I joined here.

Judging how quickly you went through DBZ and DBGT...I believe that

Originally posted by Diesldude
you’re a known liar. Show these numbers that marvel comics are selling 60+ percent.
Marvel has DC cinema beat because of Disney. Better stories and they own the critics.

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/spider-man/spider-man-is-worlds-most-profitable-superhero-and-its-not-even-close-a111109#gs.lfqe9m

https://zak-site.com/Great-American-Novel/comic_sales.html?

https://m.the-numbers.com/movies/keywords/DC-Comics

Marvel takes more real life stories, situations and writes about them. Yes DC does it but overall DC doesn't do it as much or write it in a way that's relevant to what's going on. Marvel has touched in police brutality, 911, race relations, sexuality, ect for years. To DC's credit they have done similar stories but they write them in ways they rush them. Example Superman when he met BLM, Deathstroke when he tried to tackle police brutality and school shootings. Those two stories were written ehh

Batman is DC'S only seller, and thats FACT. DC has atleast 8-10 Batman books out support the entire company that sounds smart to you? Notice Marvel has no more than 4 Spider-Man books and maybe 2 Miles books. There's no room for other characters to grow at DC. Thor literally became a top 10 character in the last decade something almost unheard of.

More recent numbers, but yes Marvel is still leading overall but some months DC takes marvel

April 2020 - marvel: 46.76% vs DC: 27.58%
https://www.statista.com/statistics/438242/comic-direct-market-share/

Q2 2020 - Marvel: 25.7% vs. DC: 37.4%
https://icv2.com/articles/markets/view/46307/direct-market-publisher-market-shares-based-comic-store-pos-data-q2-2020

Can’t really use Diamond as a comparison anymore as DC changed their supplier and not affiliated with them.

https://www.comichron.com/vitalstatistics/marketsharesyearly.html

Originally posted by -K-M-
More recent numbers, but yes Marvel is still leading overall but some months DC takes marvel

April 2020 - marvel: 46.76% vs DC: 27.58%
https://www.statista.com/statistics/438242/comic-direct-market-share/

Q2 2020 - Marvel: 25.7% vs. DC: 37.4%
https://icv2.com/articles/markets/view/46307/direct-market-publisher-market-shares-based-comic-store-pos-data-q2-2020

Can’t really use Diamond as a comparison anymore as DC changed their supplier and not affiliated with them.

https://www.comichron.com/vitalstatistics/marketsharesyearly.html

they only had the Q2 because Marvel shut down sales due to COVID. It reversed itself as soon as Marvel started back up🤦🏽‍♂️.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
they only had the Q2 because Marvel shut down sales due to COVID. It reversed itself as soon as Marvel started back up🤦🏽‍♂️.

Oh no I’m agreeing Marvel has more market shares. But at that time DC was also shutting down as well