Originally posted by JBL
Alberto is very intelligent. He proves his points and backs up his claims. Certain people don't like him because he has debunked many claims on Superman. It's Superman fans that insult him because they want Superman to be the best at everything and be unbeatable. He's not, but Superman fans don't want to hear that.
Ironic coming from a person who’s post was written with a 4th grade reading level.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Yeah no LIKE we're gonna agree with the idea of using irl physics to explain something in the same universe where the Big Bang was supposed to be a magical guy from the future blowing up and that same guy making matter out of nothing, flawed theory 😂
But I guess you now agree with me; after all, you admit in the above that the MU origination event is supposed to be something totally different from our Big Bang (thus, unquantifiable). Concession accepted.
Originally posted by Magnon
I'm not using irl physics to explain Knull's explosion, I'm using it to describe our Big Bang. When that description is compared with Knull's explosion, we can easily see that those two events are fundamentally incompatible even if "artistic impression" is allowed for. You already conceded that Knull existed before Knull's explosion which immediately makes it different from Big Bang, with different properties. Ergo, it's not quantifiable.But I guess you now agree with me; after all, you admit in the above that the MU origination event is supposed to be something totally different from our Big Bang (thus, unquantifiable). Concession accepted.
UM YEAH Knull existed before the Big Bang, but that doesn't mean the big explosion wasn't the Big Bang. You can't just assume it's anything else because he calls it a flash of light when that's the only thing he would know etc
Originally posted by Philosophía
Superman one-shots him with either heat vision or a strike. Knull can't compete in any way with him.Knull has been up until now a b*tch that got trashed by anything from mini-suns, any notable character he has gone up against, and has been KOd and his sword stolen by random gods. He even got trapped for a shitload of time by a planet of his symbiotes.
And I'm ignoring speed entirely, with which Superman would bend him, all of his symbiotes, Thor, Surfer and rape them right in front of a cheering Eddie Brock, whose been lent speed by the Flash to be able to see it all in the picosecond it happens.
best post of this thread
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
UM YEAH Knull existed before the Big Bang, but that doesn't mean the big explosion wasn't the Big Bang. You can't just assume it's anything else because he calls it a flash of light when that's the only thing he would know etc
Our Big Bang is fundamentally different from Knull's explosion. Ergo, they have fundamentally different properties. Ergo, the latter is not quantifiable. Really, this shouldn't be hard to grasp -- it's simple logic.
Originally posted by Magnonlogic and common sense dont mix well with Trollberto.
Red pandas and giant pandas are both called pandas, yet they are completely different animals. Even if Knull's explosion was called Big Bang in MU, its properties are completely different from our Big Bang. For example, I'm pretty sure our Big Bang didn't involve armored humanoid-shaped space giants spamming planets and stars into empty universe.Our Big Bang is fundamentally different from Knull's explosion. Ergo, they have fundamentally different properties. Ergo, the latter is not quantifiable. Really, this shouldn't be hard to grasp -- it's simple logic.
Arguing with him is going to make you out to be a bully because it would look like you’re picking on a simpleton. Conversing with him is a waste of time. If you read a couple of his posts, you will quickly realize that he’s a loud mouth with no wit. You answer one of his arguments, he Google’s up another. When that one is answered, he goes back to the original and pretends it still stands and then keeps going in circles. I usually only deal with him when I’m bored.
Originally posted by Magnon
Red pandas and giant pandas are both called pandas, yet they are completely different animals. Even if Knull's explosion was called Big Bang in MU, its properties are completely different from our Big Bang. For example, I'm pretty sure our Big Bang didn't involve armored humanoid-shaped space giants spamming planets and stars into empty universe.Our Big Bang is fundamentally different from Knull's explosion. Ergo, they have fundamentally different properties. Ergo, the latter is not quantifiable. Really, this shouldn't be hard to grasp -- it's simple logic.
Except Different origins but same effects etc.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85That's what I thought, anything to claim Superman win. Highest for Superman and lowest for the other. Good job👍
Because Phildo' post specifically and graphically talked about Superman's speed, lol.Stoic then said he only brings up one characters highs, and fhe others lows.
Do keep up.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Ok, what are Knull's high end speed feats? Let's be consistent, then.High end Superman speed feats, stacked against high end Knull speedf eats. Let's be fair.
What's superman high end speed?
Gotta be combat speed applicable only, don't bring him rebuilding that moon up either
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
What's superman high end speed?Gotta be combat speed applicable only, don't bring him rebuilding that moon up either
Well, no. I asked for Knull's, so don't come to me begging and trying to twist things.
All you will do is nitpick and try and discredit everything I post, so - let's see what Knull brings to the table first.
Originally posted by JBL
That's what I thought, anything to claim Superman win. Highest for Superman and lowest for the other. Good job👍
Actually, re-read my post. I am asking for the HIGHEST for KNULL.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Except Different origins but same effects etc.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Well, no. I asked for Knull's, so don't come to me begging and trying to twist things.All you will do is nitpick and try and discredit everything I post, so - let's see what Knull brings to the table first.
Actually, re-read my post. I am asking for the HIGHEST for KNULL.
You asked whats the highest speed for Knull and Superman and here I'm asking YOU what a debater would do for a the highest speed of Knull to see if its relevant. Why do you make the simplest stuff so difficult
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
You asked whats the highest speed for Knull and Superman and here I'm asking YOU what a debater would do for a the highest speed of Knull to see if its relevant. Why do you make the simplest stuff so difficult
Then it's simple.
Post some speed feats for Knull. As I asked. Stoic was complaining that people stack Superman's highest against his opponents' lowest, so I am simply asking what is Knull's highest.
JBL, this goes to you too.
Originally posted by Magnon
There's no evidence of our Big Bang involving cosmic giants spamming planets and stars into empty universe. Therefore the conditions during the early steps of our universe and Knull's explosion were dramatically different. There's no way to quantify the conditions of the latter.
Except That isn't how it happened in 616 either, it was the Alpha/Omega object which exploded with all of the mass required for the universe to function, Celestials come way before as they were with the First Firmament
different origins but same effects etc