Superman vs Knull

Started by AlbertoJohnAvil39 pages

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Then it's simple.

Post some speed feats for Knull. As I asked. Stoic was complaining that people stack Superman's highest against his opponents' lowest, so I am simply asking what is Knull's highest.

JBL, this goes to you too.

doesn’t need any. He ran down on a fleeing SS on a dragon

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
doesn’t need any. He ran down on a fleeing SS on a dragon
is that a combat feat or flight?
You’re attributing the Dragon’s flight speed to Knull?

Originally posted by Diesldude
is that a combat feat or flight?
You’re attributing the Dragon’s flight speed to Knull?

he made the dragon...

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
he made the dragon...
is that combat feat though?

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
doesn’t need any. He ran down on a fleeing SS on a dragon

This guy here won’t accept the moon feat as a combat feat, but brings up a flying from point a to point b as one. 😂 inconsistent or hypocritical? Take your pick.

Crickets, Alberto gonna have to switch tactics again.

All Black blitzes Thor:

https://m.imgur.com/5yanxzz

Originally posted by TheHulkster
All Black blitzes Thor:

https://m.imgur.com/5yanxzz

😂

Originally posted by TheHulkster
All Black blitzes Thor:

https://m.imgur.com/5yanxzz


crylaugh

Originally posted by TheHulkster
All Black blitzes Thor:

https://m.imgur.com/5yanxzz

Nice. So this is Knull's highest speed feat?

Trying to figure out whats funny since Knull WILL hit Superman? Don't know why Hulkster posted that. This fight is worse than Superman vs Zaar.

Originally posted by carver9
Trying to figure out whats funny since Knull WILL hit Superman? Don't know why Hulkster posted that. This fight is worse than Superman vs Zaar.

So what is Knull's highest speed feat, if you don't agree with Hulkster? Knull isn't Rogol, this is a simple question I keep asking and no one seems to want to answer.

I am not bashing, I am not lowballing, I am not being unfair and using only high end feats from Superman and low feats from Knull.

I am asking what high feats Knull has for speed, and without dissecting etc, am simply going to match it with Superman's/exceed them, if possible.

Originally posted by Diesldude
😂
Originally posted by abhilegend
crylaugh

Mjolnir is extremely fast.

Anyone who can blitz Thor like that mid-flight has to be extremely fast.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So what is Knull's highest speed feat, if you don't agree with Hulkster? Knull isn't Rogol, this is a simple question I keep asking and no one seems to want to answer.

I am not bashing, I am not lowballing, I am not being unfair and using only high end feats from Superman and low feats from Knull.

I am asking what high feats Knull has for speed, and without dissecting etc, am simply going to match it with Superman's/exceed them, if possible.

The character himself doesn't have speed feats much like Dr. Manhattan, Anti-Monitor, etc. don't have speed feats. So based on this, are you going to make the statue proclamation?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Mjolnir is extremely fast.

Anyone who can blitz Thor like that mid-flight has to be extremely fast.

True. And All Black is just one of his creations. Doesn't the Void have Sentry's speed?

Originally posted by TheHulkster
The character himself doesn't have speed feats much like Dr. Manhattan doesn't have speed feats, etc. So based on this, are you going to make the statue proclamation?

I don't care much for Manhattan, I am just curious as to why people think that Knull WILL hit Superman (see Carver's post).

We have all had this exact same convo, over and over.

A: Superman won't be hit! He's too fast!
B: HAHA you idiot, he's been hit plenty of times! *cites examples*

Then poster A either responds with lowballing ("well, Thor has all these slow showings"😉 or insults. I am moving away from that.

This is a forum fight. In a comic, anything can happen. Captain America can draw blood from a Namor who, just a few weeks prior, no-sold Cap Marvel/IronMan/Thor and tanked She-Hulk. Forum fights ignore those, with the PIS and Full Capacity rule.

The Flash/Relevant Character X will use, at a bare minimum, the least amount of speed/Relevant Power, that he is capable of using under average/normal circumstances, required to not lose the fight, or get so badly injured that it will most-likely cost him the fight. Every superhero or supervillain has a minimum amount of effort and competence that they will utilise going in to a fight. For villains that's usually a higher starting point because they like to not hold back, sure, but the heroes aren't going to be stupid either. They are not going to self-sabotage, and they will not let pride, ego or forgetting they have a way to win the fight to get in the way.

That is the forum ruling on superspeed. This is a forum fight, not a comic fight.

Either Knull is fast enough to tag Superman/avoid getting tagged by him, or he is not.

If he is, then we prove it with showings.

If he is not, then he is not.

Then if he has no speed showings, then he may have other abilities that negate it. If he is just a physical-type character, and his physical powerlevels are not up to Superman's, then....he loses.

Originally posted by abhilegend
crylaugh
Holy shit.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Mjolnir is extremely fast.

Anyone who can blitz Thor like that mid-flight has to be extremely fast.

Pity it is invalid for Hulkster's purposes.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I don't care much for Manhattan, I am just curious as to why people think that Knull WILL hit Superman (see Carver's post).

We have all had this exact same convo, over and over.

A: Superman won't be hit! He's too fast!
B: HAHA you idiot, he's been hit plenty of times! *cites examples*

Then poster A either responds with lowballing ("well, Thor has all these slow showings"😉 or insults. I am moving away from that.

This is a forum fight. In a comic, anything can happen. Captain America can draw blood from a Namor who, just a few weeks prior, no-sold Cap Marvel/IronMan/Thor and tanked She-Hulk. Forum fights ignore those, with the PIS and Full Capacity rule.

That is the forum ruling on superspeed. This is a forum fight, not a comic fight.

Either Knull is fast enough to tag Superman/avoid getting tagged by him, or he is not.

If he is, then we prove it with showings.

If he is not, then he is not.

Then if he has no speed showings, then he may have other abilities that negate it. If he is just a physical-type character, and his physical powerlevels are not up to Superman's, then....he loses.

Knull is not a physical-type character, do you agree or disagree?

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Knull is not a physical-type character, do you agree or disagree?

Disagree. Whilst he has possession and his darkness control, he uses it to fight in a physical manner (creating swords, dragons etc).

Physical attacks such as punches and energy attacks still affect him. I admit that my definition of 'physical' may jar with some, but I meant energy attacks are physical in the sense that they affect their target physically.

He doesn't go intangible, or matter manips, or uses telepathy, or telekinesis etc. When he travels, he doesn't use portals or teleports etc - he creates a giant dragon for him to physically ride on/ride in. No time powers, no DNA manip, no soul powers, nothing weird like that. Perhaps the word I am looking for is....exotic? But most of these powers are so common, exotic sounds wrong.

He's not Manhattan, or the Living Tribunal, or Eternity, or anyone like that who has no speed feats, yet I am not going to say Batman punches them out (or does he.....?)

But yeah. Am surprised you used that Necrosword showing.