DarkSaint85
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Originally posted by TheHulkster
The character himself doesn't have speed feats much like Dr. Manhattan doesn't have speed feats, etc. So based on this, are you going to make the statue proclamation?
I don't care much for Manhattan, I am just curious as to why people think that Knull WILL hit Superman (see Carver's post).
We have all had this exact same convo, over and over.
A: Superman won't be hit! He's too fast!
B: HAHA you idiot, he's been hit plenty of times! *cites examples*
Then poster A either responds with lowballing ("well, Thor has all these slow showings"😉 or insults. I am moving away from that.
This is a forum fight. In a comic, anything can happen. Captain America can draw blood from a Namor who, just a few weeks prior, no-sold Cap Marvel/IronMan/Thor and tanked She-Hulk. Forum fights ignore those, with the PIS and Full Capacity rule.
The Flash/Relevant Character X will use, at a bare minimum, the least amount of speed/Relevant Power, that he is capable of using under average/normal circumstances, required to not lose the fight, or get so badly injured that it will most-likely cost him the fight. Every superhero or supervillain has a minimum amount of effort and competence that they will utilise going in to a fight. For villains that's usually a higher starting point because they like to not hold back, sure, but the heroes aren't going to be stupid either. They are not going to self-sabotage, and they will not let pride, ego or forgetting they have a way to win the fight to get in the way.
That is the forum ruling on superspeed. This is a forum fight, not a comic fight.
Either Knull is fast enough to tag Superman/avoid getting tagged by him, or he is not.
If he is, then we prove it with showings.
If he is not, then he is not.
Then if he has no speed showings, then he may have other abilities that negate it. If he is just a physical-type character, and his physical powerlevels are not up to Superman's, then....he loses.