Originally posted by h1a8 Please refrain from the dreaded ios apostrophe. I can't quote you properly.
Which one is that? ' or "? I used to have and use both on Windows as well.
Originally posted by h1a8 The Celestials that Knull fought were not as fast as Superman can be. They were slow as shit as in all of their appearances (except the one you posted). So that scan means absolutely nothing.
You can't just disregard stuff you don't like. Fact is that cosmic beings like the Celestials are beyond such a simple concept like speed.
How often has Superman went "intangible" with his super speed? Once? You'd still give it to him as his base ability. Stop being biased towards one side.
Originally posted by h1a8 I didn't read the Thor fight (must just happened). Are you sure that's the same sword that killed the Celestials (the Necrosword)?
Yep. Also called the All-Black:
https://i.imgur.com/Evd0ta8.jpg
Knull pulled it out of his back and stabbed Thor with it in "King in Black #3". So it seems to be standard gear for him.
Originally posted by h1a8You can't use a characters highest showings as the same level they were operating at in any and every other scene. Characters have highs and lows. This is fiction, not real life. Thor has good strength feats but when he fights most of the time, he is nowhere near as strong (or is using as much force) as his highest showings. Otherwise, everytime Gladiator punched someone then it was with planet busting force. Now in a forum fight, Thor is as strong as was shown at his best. But not in a comic.
But... you're doing exactly the same with Superman? In your opinion everyone is a statue to Superman, even though he has been bitchslapped by Mongul more than once. In your opinion no one comes close to Superman in strength, because hurrdurr chains and galaxies.
And then when someone does the same for other characters – and with feats, which take a huge dump on anything Superman has ever done... You immediately start crying and talking about highs and lows. Get your double standards sorted out.
Originally posted by h1a8 With that said, give Knull feats of blunt force resistance. Give Knull feats of fighting speed and reflexes.
Gimme feats of Superman killing someone on the level of an abstract Celestial. Gimme feats of Superman killing an actual immortal being like the Sentry.
Originally posted by h1a8 Hyperion didn't hold two Universes apart. He held two planets apart for a slight moment until the planets shattered. Basically he supplied the force capable of shattering planets.
I'm not even going to respond to your egg nonsense. You can stand on eggs. You can try to squeeze an egg in your hand and you will fail, if you grab it in the correct way. Which is not my argument against your stupid argument – just a Flash Enzeru Fact.
And yes, Hyperion held two universes apart:
https://i.imgur.com/uI2ERFX.jpeg
"He is literally pushing an entire universe hidden from us."
The Earths were being pushed by the Incursion, which was the universe. Captain America was using the Infinity Gauntlet to push the entire universe back. Hyperion was physically holding two universes back, until the worlds collapsed under the pressure and the universes exploded. Don't like it? That's too bad. But let's not start talking about Kryptonian "stars", which only weigh as much as a star, but don't have its brightness, heat or gravitational pull, because "hurrr durrr, it's comics bro, not everything has to make sense."
Now matter how you turn and twist it: Hyperion was pushing back against the force of two universes. And the survived their explosion, which was also confirmed by the writer:
https://i.imgur.com/PegaC8B.png
Nothing Superman has ever done comes even close to that. And Hyperion isn't even the top dog in Marvel. That spot goes to the Sentry. And Sentry got ripped apart by Knull like yesterdays newspaper.
Originally posted by h1a8 Also, even if the planets were indestructible and Hyperion managed to hold them apart then still how much force was that? The planets could have been pushed with 1 ton of force for all we know. You know the universe is pushing shit right now as it expands? So if you stop something in space did you exert more than 1 billion tons of force?
Originally posted by h1a8 Sentry has always been kinda squishy. You have him melting in a star, IM busting his nose, etc. In all honesty, I'm not impressed by someone pulling him apart. And even so, that feat is not even close to what Superman has done with the chains.
Sentrys power scales with his mental stability. He was pretty damn unstable during the World War Hulk arc and he was eating Hulks punches, smiling and asking for more. Pretty durable at his lowest, if you ask me.
Other than that, who has ever truly taken care of the Sentry? You say the sun. Well, Sentry flew into the sun with the intention to kill himself. Looks like he can lower his durability enough to get himself burnt down to a single atom in the sun, but he can't prevent from regenerating back to normal – until he is fully restored, where he then lets himself get killed again.
What else? The Molecule Man? It's the Molecule Man. The Molecule Man would do the same to Superman and Superman wouldn't come back from that.
What else? Morgana Le Fay? She traveled back to his past and killed him as a child, where he didn't have his power. He still came back.
And Knull was somehow able to still kill the Sentry and prevent him from regenerating. That in itself is an absolutely insane, cosmic, abstract level feat.
I just hope for your own sake that you don't truly believe Superman could ever possibly rip the Sentry in half.
