Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Ok Mr Tall-Tales you carry on with your "its a retcon" "its a retcon" whilst failing to prove that being the case.We'll have to agree to disagree on whether thats Eternity or not in the 1st scan because to be honest i dont need that for my argument and it doesnt serve yours.
All youre left with is in both instances is an entity claiming in both that he is merely the sentience of the universe and claims nothing else. Which is basically Eternitys role 😆
Your scans have failed you.
Im still waiting for you to provide evidence to the forum that the Phoenix Force is no longer the energies of creation.
Once again, your scans thus far have failed you 😄
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Nope. Two different things.Eternity embodies the universe and is its sentience.
The Phoenix Force embodies the energies of creation, the underlying life-force that facilitates the universe that is Eternity.
Connected but different.
Boo-hoo b**ch 😆
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Patiently awaiting desperate ploy number 957546467 😆
Eternity isn't sentience of universe you idiot. Metatron is.
But hey, post some more emojis. That'll help.
Originally posted by abhilegend
This is just sad.Eternity isn't sentience of universe you idiot. Metatron is.
But hey, post some more emojis. That'll help.
As i said before, i dont need to go into a back and forth over that point. It doesnt matter to my argue and it doesnt help yours. Youre just filling up the page with nonsense to bury the posts where i highlighted you have nothing 😆
Please show us all a scan that states explicitly that another entity is the energies of creation, that another entity embodies the Big Bang.
NO scans of something triggering the Big Bang (after all no is arguing that Phoenix triggers Big Bangs)
NO scans of someone referencing the energies of creation or Big Bang without stating explicitly to be it or embody it
NO scans of a Big Bang happening coupled with your supposition and side commentary "oh it doesn't mention Phoenixes name so its not the Big Bang" It is after all stated in continuity that Phoenix is the Big Bang already. So unless a story is about the Phoenix then a generic visual depiction of the Big Bang event doesnt have to refer to the Phoenix. Just like a generic depiction of the 616 universe doesnt have to mention Eternity if the story isnt about him. Not referring to it does not signify a retcon.
SHOW US an explicit and in continuity reference of another entity being given the role of embodying energies of creation today or you forfeit the argument 😆
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
As i said before, i dont need to go into a back and forth over that point. It doesnt matter to my argue and it doesnt help yours. Youre just filling up the page with nonsense to bury the posts where i highlighted you have nothing 😆Please show us all a scan that states explicitly that another entity is the energies of creation, that another entity embodies the Big Bang.
[B]NO
scans of something triggering the Big Bang (after all no is arguing that Phoenix triggers Big Bangs)NO scans of someone referencing the energies of creation or Big Bang without stating explicitly to be it or embody it
NO scans of a Big Bang happening coupled with your supposition and side commentary "oh it doesn't mention Phoenixes name so its not the Big Bang" It is after all stated in continuity that Phoenix is the Big Bang already. So unless a story is about the Phoenix then a generic visual depiction of the Big Bang event doesnt have to refer to the Phoenix. Just like a generic depiction of the 616 universe doesnt have to mention Eternity if the story isnt about him. Not referring to it does not signify a retcon.
SHOW US an explicit and in continuity reference of another entity being given the role of embodying energies of creation today or you forfeit the argument 😆 [/B]
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Yes. Still here and active. 😄Evidence today or forfeit. You've had over a week and to date have [B]FAILED!
😆Be a man, deflate the ego and learn when its time to admit you're wrong ✅ [/B]
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Oh and ffs please make sure you quit trying to sneakily use what ifs and possible futures to prove a point in a canonical debate.If your search for evidence is a week long world of struggle then why aren't you taking the hint?!! 😆
You've lost, Phoenix isn't big bang, sentience of big bang or anything. Its nexus of psionic energy. That's it.
Now run back to wherever you came from.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
As i said before, i dont need to go into a back and forth over that point. It doesnt matter to my argue and it doesnt help yours. Youre just filling up the page with nonsense to bury the posts where i highlighted you have nothing 😆Please show us all a scan that states explicitly that another entity is the energies of creation, that another entity embodies the Big Bang.
[B]NO
scans of something triggering the Big Bang (after all no is arguing that Phoenix triggers Big Bangs)NO scans of someone referencing the energies of creation or Big Bang without stating explicitly to be it or embody it
NO scans of a Big Bang happening coupled with your supposition and side commentary "oh it doesn't mention Phoenixes name so its not the Big Bang" It is after all stated in continuity that Phoenix is the Big Bang already. So unless a story is about the Phoenix then a generic visual depiction of the Big Bang event doesnt have to refer to the Phoenix. Just like a generic depiction of the 616 universe doesnt have to mention Eternity if the story isnt about him. Not referring to it does not signify a retcon.
SHOW US an explicit and in continuity reference of another entity being given the role of embodying energies of creation today or you forfeit the argument 😆 [/B]
Without a submission of evidence (that meets the above conditions) within the next 24hrs, you officially forfeit.
Best of luck kiddo 😱 😆
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Without a submission of evidence (that meets the above conditions) within the next 24hrs, you officially forfeit.Best of luck kiddo 😱 😆
I systematically destroyed every argument you had.
Phoenix is not the big bang, you conceded that Celestials created the first big bang.
You conceded that in the future, Metatron/Galactus create the big bang.
You conceded that Phoenix is reborn in the big bang.
You changed from "Phoenix is big bang" to "Phoenix is sentience of creation" which I proved to be Metatron.
You've gone on a conceding marathon on this thread.
I'm going to devour your soul and there's nothing you can do about it. Except run away.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Like I said, you've nothing but empty bravado and a lot of delusions going on right now.I systematically destroyed every argument you had.
Phoenix is not the big bang, you conceded that Celestials created the first big bang.
You conceded that in the future, Metatron/Galactus create the big bang.
You conceded that Phoenix is reborn in the big bang.
You changed from "Phoenix is big bang" to "Phoenix is sentience of creation" which I proved to be Metatron.
You've gone on a conceding marathon on this thread.I'm going to devour your soul and there's nothing you can do about it. Except run away.
I love how you wait till you think im offline to post you mouse. 😆
I think youve given up on the debate and this is more about saving face and pretending that you havent utterly lost.
You cannot present the evidence, so youre acting as if youve actually done something of note within this thread.
Me concede where? Youve lost every single point youve tried to bring to me. It was a massacre.
People just gotta go back to page 14 to see you caught hands and got severely pummelled 😆
Ive consistently embarrassed you, highlighting both your ineptitude and your deceit.
You dont deserve a seat at my table kid. 😮💨
So once again:
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
As i said before, i dont need to go into a back and forth over that point. It doesnt matter to my argue and it doesnt help yours. Youre just filling up the page with nonsense to bury the posts where i highlighted you have nothing 😆Please show us all a scan that states explicitly that another entity is the energies of creation, that another entity embodies the Big Bang.
[B]NO
scans of something triggering the Big Bang (after all no is arguing that Phoenix triggers Big Bangs)NO scans of someone referencing the energies of creation or Big Bang without stating explicitly to be it or embody it
NO scans of a Big Bang happening coupled with your supposition and side commentary "oh it doesn't mention Phoenixes name so its not the Big Bang" It is after all stated in continuity that Phoenix is the Big Bang already. So unless a story is about the Phoenix then a generic visual depiction of the Big Bang event doesnt have to refer to the Phoenix. Just like a generic depiction of the 616 universe doesnt have to mention Eternity if the story isnt about him. Not referring to it does not signify a retcon.
SHOW US an explicit and in continuity reference of another entity being given the role of embodying energies of creation today or you forfeit the argument 😆 [/B]
We're waiting 😱
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
I love how you wait till you think im offline to post you mouse. 😆
You overestimate your importance idiot. You are literally nobody.
I think youve given up on the debate and this is more about saving face and pretending that you havent utterly lost.
LMAO, I've literally dismantled each and ever one of your arguments. This is the last gasp of your soul.
You cannot present the evidence, so youre acting as if youve actually done something of note within this thread.
Haha, I've given scans and everything. You are literally trolling now.
Me concede where? Youve lost every single point youve tried to bring to me. It was a massacre.
You have gone on a conceding spree.
People just gotta go back to page 14 to see you caught hands and got severely pummelled 😆
LMAO, you are delusional. Nothing else can explain this behavior, I pity you.
Ive consistently embarrassed you, highlighting both your ineptitude and your deceit.
LOL, you have only shown how all the old debaters were dumb as ****. Nothing else.
You dont deserve a seat at my table kid. 😮💨So once again:
Haha, how many times are you going to spam something I already destroyed?
We're waiting 😱
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Please show us all a scan that states explicitly that another entity is the energies of creation, that another entity embodies the Big Bang.
From the very run of Fantastic Four even. There's so many retcons done since then, you are an idiot to think that FF 522 is still valid.
Originally posted by abhilegendFrom the very run of Fantastic Four even. There's so many retcons done since then, you are an idiot to think that FF 522 is still valid.
Oh dear.
I was waiting for you to bring up the Alien Entity and his lone appearance in continuity before never being seen or referred to again 🙄
Its said in your scans that reality was triggered by their desire to understand:
"Are you saying that, we, you and i, that our desire to understand was the spark that lit the fire of creation"
What would go on to be revealed in the next issue was that in this one time interpretation from like 10yrs ago, that was never supported or adopted by any official source ever since, be that comic books or handbooks, this story says that Eternitys desire to understand itself, to understand the meaning of life was the spark that triggered the Big Bang.
Reed and the Alien Entity are beings of the universe, aspects of the chronal axis that Eternity embodies. So by travelling back in time to the pre-Big Bang void and asking "WHY?" just as Eternity did (in this interpretation,) they were able to trigger the Big Bang event the same as he did.
Whats significant is
1) its stated explicitly that they merely acted as triggers, the questions the Alien had created the spark and this then triggered the Big Bang. So again a depiction of a trigger. Zero depiction or re-assignment of the role of Big Bang/energies of creation to another being. Just multiple triggers for it and thats fine. No ones saying the Phoenix Force triggered the Big Bang. However what is being said is it IS those energies.
2) You deceitfully havent put this incident into context by referring to the next issue which unfortunately for you i have knowledge of 😆
3) As you highlighted earlier this week the current continuity trigger for the Big Bang is Galans ship colliding with the Alpha/Omega object that contained the Big Bang.
So this incident, that you spent all this time posting about, that you didnt even interpret correctly (a running theme 😱 ) unfortunately for you and your cause is whats actually been retconned LMAO 😆
So once again, your poor comprehension skills, deficient research and tendency to post out of context evidence in an effort to fool the forum has been highlighted.
Its a daily occurrence 😆
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
As i said before, i dont need to go into a back and forth over that point. It doesnt matter to my argue and it doesnt help yours. Youre just filling up the page with nonsense to bury the posts where i highlighted you have nothing 😆Please show us all a scan that states explicitly that another entity is the energies of creation, that another entity embodies the Big Bang.
[B]NO
scans of something triggering the Big Bang (after all no is arguing that Phoenix triggers Big Bangs)NO scans of someone referencing the energies of creation or Big Bang without stating explicitly to be it or embody it
NO scans of a Big Bang happening coupled with your supposition and side commentary "oh it doesn't mention Phoenixes name so its not the Big Bang" It is after all stated in continuity that Phoenix is the Big Bang already. So unless a story is about the Phoenix then a generic visual depiction of the Big Bang event doesnt have to refer to the Phoenix. Just like a generic depiction of the 616 universe doesnt have to mention Eternity if the story isnt about him. Not referring to it does not signify a retcon.
SHOW US an explicit and in continuity reference of another entity being given the role of embodying energies of creation today or you forfeit the argument 😆 [/B]
The clocks still ticking b**ch 😱 😆