Who can tank Superboy Prime multiversal punch against BWL

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Prime was pulled into the Speed Force and sent to a parallel Earth. But it was never explained if the parallel Earth was in it's own universe or inside of the Speed Force itself. Nor, to my knowledge was it ever stated how he got back to Earth-1. Whether he broke through the Universal Barrier or flew into the Speed Force and then back out of the Speed Force. Nothing was explained other than a brief convo between the Flashes that still made no definite mention of how he escaped, just that he was on his way back to Earth.

https://i.imgur.com/fUujusR.png

because like i said, the flashes dumped prime into the speed force in ic #4-
https://imgur.com/a/fzbJS#0

then he returned in ic#5-
https://imgur.com/a/3dmaq#0

and then said he was imprisoned on the alternate earth for "years"-
https://i.imgur.com/8CCANj9.png

i'm just saying that prime definitely did more then just fly from one earth to another. he obviously pulled some time and reality antics, otherwise he would have only returned back to earth-0 several years after he was first taken.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
But there is no other explanation for multiple years passing for Bart/SBP, and only hours (as you say) passing on Earth-Prime.

The Speed Force dropped Prime and the Flashes into an alternate Earth that was set in the past. Time flowed differently from Earth-1. Prime escaped his prison on the alternate Earth, flew into space, and crossed back over into Earth-1, entering the normal timeline. The hours that went by was probably the time it took Prime to fly back to Earth-1.

Prime wasn't gone a week. Infinite Crisis proves this because when Prime returns, everyone is still fighting.

Oh, Bazie has trouble understanding the concept of time dilation. No wonder he likes weakling hulk.

Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
bart had to absorb the entire speed force, then enter and exit the speed force itself just to arrive on earth-0 a second or two before prime-
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https://i.imgur.com/fUujusR.png

because like i said, the flashes dumped prime into the speed force in ic #4-
https://imgur.com/a/fzbJS#0

then he returned in ic#5-
https://imgur.com/a/3dmaq#0

and then said he was imprisoned on the alternate earth for "years"-
https://i.imgur.com/8CCANj9.png

i'm just saying that prime definitely did more then just fly from one earth to another. he obviously pulled some time and reality antics, otherwise he would have only returned back to earth-0 several years after he was first taken.

Prime was imprisoned for years, on an alternate Earth that was in the past. That Earth's time flowed separately from Earth-1. Plus the time Prime spent on the alternate earth was in the past.
Think of it like the end of Endgame. Cap went back in time and was an old man by the time he met back up with the Avengers. Yet to their perspective he was only gone a few minutes or so. But to Cap it was a lifetime

scans stating how far in the past that alternate earth is set?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
If everything is now canon again......

Oh my. But then, if we DO allow Hulk/Thor/Surfer et al's feats from like a bajillion years ago....

Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
scans stating how far in the past that alternate earth is set?

The parallel world they were taken to was back when Jay Garrick was younger. Which was a loong time before Barry became Flash. He likely wasnt even born yet.

i don't think you understand that it doesn't actually matter what point that earth is set in, because both earths exist in the multiverse simultaneously. they're just on different timelines.

so years spent on that earth would still equate to years spent on earth-0. so prime would have still had to either punch through the barriers of timespace to get back to earth-0 shortly after he was taken, or enter and exit the speed force like bart did.

just saying that its not as simple as just flying from one earth to the other. it's actually a pretty crazy ft that involved time breaking on some level.

Yeah I mean...Earth 22 is Kingdom Come's earth, and is set in the future.

Spending a year there is the same as spending a year on Earth 0.

Without any time traveling, time flows at the same rate on ALL the Earths.

If SBP spent four years on this alt Earth, when he gets back to Earth 0 by simply flying there it doesn't weirdly snap back, lol.

yep exactly.

when prime was kept on that alternate earth for years, time wouldn't have just miraculously stopped moving forward on earth-0.

so if prime spent, say, 2 years on the alternate earth, it means 2 years would have also passed on earth-0. so if he had just flown linearly from the alternate earth to earth-0, he would have arrived on earth-0 two years into its post ic future.

but instead he arrived back to earth-0 shortly after he left....."hours later" as alberto said. so there is clearly some kind of time breaking at play in that feat.

10 pages arguing with a troll who can’t even understand how the DC multiverse is structured

Originally posted by Galan007
The Darkest Night...
1.) Merged with the Dark Multiverse's equivalent of Dr. Manhattan(who was already a peer of Perpetua.)
2.) Stitched the skills and experience of all the Batmen in the Dark Multiverse into himself to become even more powerful.
3.) Wields all the Crisis energy, ever.

She didn't need to?

Perpetua was created by the Source/Overvoid specifically to create multiverses. That is her function, as designated by the supreme power of DC.

What do you mean? Monarch is universal. Darkest Night is multiversal+. 😕

beautiful post, correct on all counts 👆

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
I like how Superman just sent that monkey to certain death. Lol

At least he checked up on him with his Time Vision.

Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
yep exactly.

when prime was kept on that alternate earth for years, time wouldn't have just miraculously stopped moving forward on earth-0.

so if prime spent, say, 2 years on the alternate earth, it means 2 years would have also passed on earth-0. so if he had just flown linearly from the alternate earth to earth-0, he would have arrived on earth-0 two years into its post ic future.

but instead he arrived back to earth-0 shortly after he left....."hours later" as alberto said. so there is clearly some kind of time breaking at play in that feat.

👆 it's a good feat, and adds to my post. SBP does what SBP does.

Originally posted by Diesldude
of course you dumb phuck. We aren talking about him fighting perpetua. We were talking about him fighting prime and he was no longer cut off from the crises energy when that happened e cause he had stabilized the earth. You keep saying he was weakened as he was fighting perpetua. Like somehow that translates to him being weakened against prime. When he fought prime he was back to getting amped by the crises energy. So why do you keep saying he got weakened while fighting perpetua? It has nothing to do with his fight with sbp.

If you want to use that as a knock on perpetua you’re wrong there too.

What an idiot 😂 when 2 people fight, they EXPEND ENERGY. Thus, BWL had already EXPENDED ENERGY in his fight with Perpetua. That is a SIMPLE FACT. BWL stabilizing the Earth was AFTER his fight with Perpetua. He was NOT at PEAK POWER when he stabilized the Earth. The most he was able to restore was the energies that were being lost when the Earth was destabilized. BWL ALREADY beat Prime and friends before his fight with Perpetua at the start of Death Metal 5 but let's ignore that to bump Prime a tier eh

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
But then, if we DO allow Hulk/Thor/Surfer et al's feats from like a bajillion years ago....

Marvel never had a hard reset (and even when they did, they retconned everything back to normal in no time), unlike DC who does it 100 times a year.

Everything may be "canon" now, but it still doesn't change the fact those are different versions, different worlds, different histories, etc.

tl;dr - fuck dc

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
What an idiot 😂 when 2 people fight, they EXPEND ENERGY. Thus, BWL had already EXPENDED ENERGY in his fight with Perpetua. That is a SIMPLE FACT. BWL stabilizing the Earth was AFTER his fight with Perpetua. He was NOT at PEAK POWER when he stabilized the Earth.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil

The most he was able to restore was the energies that were being lost when the Earth was destabilized. BWL ALREADY beat Prime and friends before his fight with Perpetua at the start of Death Metal 5 but let's ignore that to bump Prime a tier eh

One final time moron. We are discussing SBP and DK. Who cares about his fight with perpetua at this point in the argument. She was already defeated by DK that got cut off from his amp mid battle. Now retard, why do you think DK stabilized the earth after? To get access to the crises energy. Why? Once he had access he got back to being at his full power. And he still got beat on by SBP.

The point is he stabilized the earth, gained access to the crises energy and was back at full power before fighting prime.

Originally posted by Diesldude
Alright, come out with it, who is typing your posts? It’s like you type but you don't know what you typed. This didn’t conflict with anything I said but... continued below.

One final time moron. We are discussing SBP and DK. Who cares about his fight with perpetua at this point in the argument. She was already defeated by DK that got cut off from his amp mid battle. Now retard, why do you think DK stabilized the earth after? To get access to the crises energy. Why? Once he had access he got back to being at his full power. And he still got beat on by SBP.

The point is he stabilized the earth, gained access to the crises energy and was back at full power before fighting prime.

😂 You keep LEAVING OUT the FACT that BWL had EXPENDED ENERGIES in his fight with Perpetua. Even Perpetua was EXPENDING ENERGIES in that fight. The POINT IS that BWL stabilizing Earth was done some time AFTER he had already EXPENDED ENERGIES fighting Perpetua. Did he have time to recharge to the same level of power he had BEFORE he fought Perpetua? NO. The ONLY thing we can say is that he was able to restore his power levels to the way they were BEFORE the Earth was destabilized.

Albert, you haven't explained how years passed on one earth, but only hours on Earth prime.