Who can tank Superboy Prime multiversal punch against BWL

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
2.Fast forward to present times, after fans lost their minds around it, DC tried to force it in the present stories, not only it didn't make sense, but it also contradicted prior fights by not occuring in them.

This is you essentially saying "I don't like it so it didn't happen",

Also, do you realize you are complaining because retcons aren't happening more consistently, that must be the most absurd cricitism you can apply to a reality warping ability

"Hey, DC used Prime this month and did not change Power Girl's backstory twice, terrible writting"

Anyone complaining about Prime only appearing in a handful of stories over the last 15 years, and only using a reality punching and/or retconning ability a few times in that span, but still trying to summon up Thor, Gladiator, Surfer, Hulk and Thanos feats from 30+ years ago are a ****ing joke.

Originally posted by Juntai
Anyone complaining about Prime only appearing in a handful of stories over the last 15 years, and only using a reality punching and/or retconning ability a few times in that span, but still trying to summon up Thor, Gladiator, Surfer, Hulk and Thanos feats from 30+ years ago are a ****ing joke.

DK didn't do much to gain the title of omnipotent. Neither did Perpetua. Superboy Prime had a far tougher opponent in Monarch than he did against Darkest Knight. Hide from it if you'd like, but it will remain an issue, and since DC made everything canon we can't exactly disprove it, or claim that it was a different Superboy Prime.

Originally posted by Stoic
DK didn't do much to gain the title of omnipotent. Neither did Perpetua. Superboy Prime had a far tougher opponent in Monarch than he did against Darkest Knight. Hide from it if you'd like, but it will remain an issue, and since DC made everything canon we can't exactly disprove it, or claim that it was a different Superboy Prime.

I don’t think anyone claimed that this is a different SBP or that monarch isn’t canon lol. What did monarch do that is above DK?

DK had Manhattans powers and was amped by crises energies.

I think you’re selling Manhattan short, he isn’t captain atom level that everyone thought back 10 years ago. He’s an omnipotent being.

Originally posted by Stoic
DK didn't do much to gain the title of omnipotent.

Originally posted by Stoic
Neither did Perpetua.

Perpetua was created by the Source/Overvoid specifically to create multiverses. That is her function, as designated by the supreme power of DC.

Originally posted by Stoic
Superboy Prime had a far tougher opponent in Monarch than he did against Darkest Knight.

Originally posted by Galan007
The Darkest Night...
1.) Merged with the Dark Multiverse's equivalent of Dr. Manhattan(who was already a peer of Perpetua.)
2.) Stitched the skills and experience of all the Batmen in the Dark Multiverse into himself to become even more powerful.
3.) Wields all the Crisis energy, ever.

She didn't need to?

Perpetua was created by the Source/Overvoid specifically to create multiverses. That is her function, as designated by the supreme power of DC.

What do you mean? Monarch is universal. Darkest Night is multiversal+. 😕

BWL was weakened when he fought Prime, BWL expended fighting Perpetua, and also Perpetua mentioned BWL power was limited just like hers

not to mention a non weakened BWL already stomped Prime and the others in Death Metal 5 with Prime being the last one to recover

^ Has nothing to do with what I said to Stoic.

Stop getting so defensive.

Originally posted by Bentley
This is you essentially saying "I don't like it so it didn't happen",

Also, do you realize you are complaining because retcons aren't happening more consistently, that must be the most absurd cricitism you can apply to a reality warping ability

"Hey, DC used Prime this month and did not change Power Girl's backstory twice, terrible writting"

Prime after the events of Infinite Crisis and prior Death Metal, was pushed to his limits in some fights, sometimes he had to try hard, yet none of his attacks even retconned anything. It's inconsistency nothing more

SBP doing things that are inconsistent with the rest of the DCU is ..... pretty consistent with him.

Punching out of the Phantom Zone? Sure.

Escaping the Speed Force? Why not.

Overriding BL rings? Ok.

Busting the AM and flying it's corpse far away? Meh.

Surviving and amping off a Guardian's kamikaze attack? Sounds funky.

Finding a Zatanna who is able to weaken Mxy, yet is deathly scared of him? Cool.

At this point, in his short history, he's done a fair amount of 'inconsistent' things.

Surviving a universal explosion

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
SBP doing things that are inconsistent with the rest of the DCU is ..... pretty consistent with him.

Punching out of the Phantom Zone? Sure.

Escaping the Speed Force? Why not.

Overriding BL rings? Ok.

Busting the AM and flying it's corpse far away? Meh.

Surviving and amping off a Guardian's kamikaze attack? Sounds funky.

Finding a Zatanna who is able to weaken Mxy, yet is deathly scared of him? Cool.

At this point, in his short history, he's done a fair amount of 'inconsistent' things.

Breaking it down like that, he's awfully close to being Bugs Bunny-lite.

Originally posted by Galan007
The Darkest Night...
1.) Merged with the Dark Multiverse's equivalent of Dr. Manhattan(who was already a peer of Perpetua.)
2.) Stitched the skills and experience of all the Batmen in the Dark Multiverse into himself to become even more powerful.
3.) Wields all the Crisis energy, ever.

She didn't need to?

Perpetua was created by the Source/Overvoid specifically to create multiverses. That is her function, as designated by the supreme power of DC.

What do you mean? Monarch is universal. Darkest Night is multiversal+. 😕

What fts does he have though?

Originally posted by Magnificent M
Breaking it down like that, he's awfully close to being Bugs Bunny-lite.

A lot of characters have fts like this.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
BWL was weakened when he fought Prime, BWL expended fighting Perpetua, and also Perpetua mentioned BWL power was limited just like hers

not to mention a non weakened BWL already stomped Prime and the others in Death Metal 5 with Prime being the last one to recover

Originally posted by carver9
A lot of characters have fts like this.

Originally posted by carver9
A lot of characters have fts like this.

BL rings were infecting EVERY person they came into contact with. SBP was the only one who overrode it with pure emotion.

The Speed Force is only open to, well, Speed Force users. SBP was the ONLY one to break out of it with pure power alone.

The Phantom Zone has been used by Krypton for centuries to imprison their criminals. The Martians called it the Still Zone and needed special tech to enter/exit. Even the Angels of the Pax Dei called it Limbo - it's THE Limbo from Christian theology, apparently.

SBP just smashed his way out of it.

Now I know what you are about to do. You are going to bring Hulk in, and use the example with him doing what the Ebony Blade, for example.

But the Ebony Blade isn't infallible. Here it is with some Skrulls, for example:
https://imgur.com/a/aH1ftu3

There are examples of it failing to cut things. BL rings (as an example) never failed with anyone in the DCU - until SBP. The PZ never failed. Speed Force, never failed.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
BL rings were infecting EVERY person they came into contact with. SBP was the only one who overrode it with pure emotion.

The Speed Force is only open to, well, Speed Force users. SBP was the ONLY one to break out of it with pure power alone.

The Phantom Zone has been used by Krypton for centuries to imprison their criminals. The Martians called it the Still Zone and needed special tech to enter/exit. Even the Angels of the Pax Dei called it Limbo - it's THE Limbo from Christian theology, apparently.

SBP just smashed his way out of it.

Now I know what you are about to do. You are going to bring Hulk in, and use the example with him doing what the Ebony Blade, for example.

But the Ebony Blade isn't infallible. Here it is with some Skrulls, for example:
https://imgur.com/a/aH1ftu3

There are examples of it failing to cut things. BL rings (as an example) never failed with anyone in the DCU - until SBP. The PZ never failed. Speed Force, never failed.

There's context to the speed force feat

Sure. But my point still stands, no one has entered/exited the Speed Force like that (Carver says WW did apparently, but he disappeared whenever I asked him about the appearance).

Plus there's all the OTHER things I posted, which you didn't address. One thing? Sure, context. Two? Three? Four?

They soon rack up, and SBP isn't exactly a character like Hulk or Thor who has 100s of appearances.

Originally posted by Diesldude
stop lying you defensive moron. Abhi already proved you wrong. DK stabilized the earth and was back up getting amped by crises energy right before he fought Prime. So he was at full power. Go respond to that post.

What a dumbass 😂 Stabilizing the Earth had NOTHING TO DO with the energy BWL expended fighting Perpetua. Those 2 things are ENTIRELY SEPARATE. And btw Legion ALTERED REALITY when he inadvertently killed his father before he (Legion) was ever born. That instance triggered the creation of the Age of Apocalypse reality. The other instance is when Legion INTENTIONALLY used Reality Alteration to ERASE HIMSELF from existence and later come back inside the mind of someone else, Far above what Prime did. Leave it up to super stans like to you overexagge any S related showing 😂 retard

Even Dr. Strange, Eternity, Mephisto, and LT survived a Reality Altering Event in the storyline where an Overloaded Galactus oneshot destroyed the equivalent of a Multiverse. Eternity granted Strange the use of his energies to fuel a spell that REBUILT all that was destroyed. Strange's goal was to use that spell to rebuild/restore the destroyed realities exactly how they were up to the point where the person responsible for BFRing Galactus into the Magical Realms encounters Strange.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Sure. But my point still stands, no one has entered/exited the Speed Force like that (Carver says WW did apparently, but he disappeared whenever I asked him about the appearance).

Plus there's all the OTHER things I posted, which you didn't address. One thing? Sure, context. Two? Three? Four?

They soon rack up, and SBP isn't exactly a character like Hulk or Thor who has 100s of appearances.

What Prime does is child plays for Hulk, Hulk punched a literally concept made into a storm. IN SPACE! Where there’s no air and limited if any matter. He broke through physical law and concept

even indestructible hulk punched through time itself. There's nothing special about this "Retcon" punch, period.