Who can tank Superboy Prime multiversal punch against BWL

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Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
What a dumbass 😂 Stabilizing the Earth had NOTHING TO DO with the energy BWL expended fighting Perpetua. Those 2 things are ENTIRELY SEPARATE. And btw Legion ALTERED REALITY when he inadvertently killed his father before he (Legion) was ever born. That instance triggered the creation of the Age of Apocalypse reality. The other instance is when Legion INTENTIONALLY used Reality Alteration to ERASE HIMSELF from existence and later come back inside the mind of someone else, Far above what Prime did. Leave it up to super stans like to you overexagge any S related showing 😂 retard

Even Dr. Strange, Eternity, Mephisto, and LT survived a Reality Altering Event in the storyline where an Overloaded Galactus oneshot destroyed the equivalent of a Multiverse. Eternity granted Strange the use of his energies to fuel a spell that REBUILT all that was destroyed. Strange's goal was to use that spell to rebuild/restore the destroyed realities exactly how they were up to the point where the person responsible for BFRing Galactus into the Magical Realms encounters Strange.

of course you dumb phuck. We aren talking about him fighting perpetua. We were talking about him fighting prime and he was no longer cut off from the crises energy when that happened e cause he had stabilized the earth. You keep saying he was weakened as he was fighting perpetua. Like somehow that translates to him being weakened against prime. When he fought prime he was back to getting amped by the crises energy. So why do you keep saying he got weakened while fighting perpetua? It has nothing to do with his fight with sbp.

If you want to use that as a knock on perpetua you’re wrong there too.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
There's context to the speed force feat
What context?

Originally posted by Parmaniac
What context?

The fact that Prime never escaped the speed force?

@Albert:

What Prime does is child plays for Hulk, Hulk punched a literally concept made into a storm. IN SPACE! Where there’s no air and limited if any matter. He broke through physical law and concept

even indestructible hulk punched through time itself. There's nothing special about this "Retcon" punch, period.

You miss my points.

Others have ALSO punched through time. Superman has also gone through the time barrier as well - hell, he has even thrown things backwards in time, and in a comic that is in the same time period as your first example (i.e. the 70s) he has also gone through the time barrier casually by hitting himself.

NOBODY has punched through the Phantom Zone, ever.

Second point - Hulk has WAY more appearances than SBP. Easily.....10x? 100x more? Of course you will be able to dig a comic up where he does XYZ, especially if you are going as far back as the early 70s, lol. Yet SBP is matching it with his shenanigans.

The main point is this - SBP has consistently done things that are inconsistent with the rest of the DCU, in his short run of appearances. Saying he is inconsistent is par for the course.

Saint, Prime never escaped the speed force though, When the Flashes pulled Prime into the Speed Force it shot them out and into an Alternate Earth. They imprisoned him on the alternate earth and Prime eventually escaped.

Infinite Crisis #3/4
And F:TFMA #6 revealed what happened.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Saint, Prime never escaped the speed force though, When the Flashes pulled Prime into the Speed Force it shot them out and into an Alternate Earth. They imprisoned him on the alternate earth and Prime eventually escaped.

And how did Prime come from the alt. Earth back to Earth-0?

If everything is now canon again......

Oh my. But then, if we DO allow Hulk/Thor/Surfer et al's feats from like a bajillion years ago....

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
And how did Prime come from the alt. Earth back to Earth-0?

He flew. he crossed over from one universe to the next and the Flashes followed. In the comic I mentioned it shows the Flash Fam in an alternate Earth talking about the incident.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
He flew. he crossed over from one universe to the next and the Flashes followed. In the comic I mentioned it shows the Flash Fam in an alternate Earth talking about the incident.

👆 and the other examples?

Btw, you are right here. I misremembered, and got it wrong.

in ic prime said the flashes kept him imprisoned for "years". so how could he just fly back to earth-0 and arrive a few days after he was first taken?

how can the years long time gap be reconciled with linear flight?

Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
in ic prime said the flashes kept him imprisoned for "years". so how could he just fly back to earth-0 and arrive a few days after he was first taken?

how can the years long time gap be reconciled with linear flight?

He was imprisoned on the alternate Earth for years. It's theorized that he flew out of the prison, into space, and broke through the barrier between worlds, entering the regular universe. They just never put it on panel.

Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
in ic prime said the flashes kept him imprisoned for "years". so how could he just fly back to earth-0 and arrive a few days after he was first taken?

how can the years long time gap be reconciled with linear flight?

Bart also aged like, years.

Good point. Perhaps I didn't misremember after all, lol.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
He was imprisoned on the alternate Earth for years. It's theorized that he flew out of the prison, into space, and broke through the barrier between worlds, entering the regular universe. They just never put it on panel.

So if he was trapped there for years....

Then flew out of prison, into space, and between the barrier between worlds....

On Earth-0, he was only gone for like a week. Four years had NOT passed - Cassie is all surprised Bart is older.

right

prime was imprisoned for "years" on the alternate earth, but he arrived back on earth-0 just a few days after he left. so there HAS to be more to the feat then him just flying linearly from one earth to another, or else he would have arrived several years after ic concluded. so at some point prime must have shattered through a time-space dimensional barrier in order to get back to earth-0 just a few days after he left. so the feat is still absurd.

i guess i should also point out that bart had to absorb the entire speed force just to get back to earth-0 moments before prime did. same comic states that even wally wasn't fast enough to catch up to prime, and could have died trying.

Prime was pulled into the Speed Force and sent to a parallel Earth. But it was never explained if the parallel Earth was in it's own universe or inside of the Speed Force itself. Nor, to my knowledge was it ever stated how he got back to Earth-1. Whether he broke through the Universal Barrier or flew into the Speed Force and then back out of the Speed Force. Nothing was explained other than a brief convo between the Flashes that still made no definite mention of how he escaped, just that he was on his way back to Earth.

Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
right

prime was imprisoned for "years" on the alternate earth, but he arrived back on earth-0 just a few days after he left. so there HAS to be more to the feat then him just flying linearly from one earth to another, or else he would have arrived several years after ic concluded. so at some point prime must have shattered through a time-space dimensional barrier in order to get back to earth-0 just a few days after he left. so the feat is still absurd.

i guess i should also point out that bart had to absorb the entire speed force just to get back to earth-0 moments before prime did. same comic states that even wally wasn't fast enough to catch up to prime, and could have died trying.

Prime was only gone for a few hours.

They said Wally wasnt fast enough because Prime had such a huge head start. Had the both ran back at the same time, Wally would have dusted him.

Plus Bart absorbed the entire Speed Force into himself. If he had done that while everyone was inside of the Speed Force they would essentially be inside of him.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Prime was pulled into the Speed Force and sent to a parallel Earth. But it was never explained if the parallel Earth was in it's own universe or inside of the Speed Force itself. Nor, to my knowledge was it ever stated how he got back to Earth-1. Whether he broke through the Universal Barrier or flew into the Speed Force and then back out of the Speed Force. Nothing was explained other than a brief convo between the Flashes that still made no definite mention of how he escaped, just that he was on his way back to Earth.

But there is no other explanation for multiple years passing for Bart/SBP, and only hours (as you say) passing on Earth-Prime.

Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
in ic prime said the flashes kept him imprisoned for "years". so how could he just fly back to earth-0 and arrive a few days after he was first taken?

how can the years long time gap be reconciled with linear flight?

Prime's just really slow 👆

FTFMA #6 REVEALED the SF simply dropped them off on a parallel world in the past
Yet after Prime vanished, Alex pulled all alternate earth's from their respective universes and placed them side by side next to the main world
So, when prime escaped his red sun generator prison in a building on that alternate earth, he simply flew off the planet and found the main one.