Except the comic stated he is a star at least twice. So your nuclear reactor argument is moot since like you said they both have same contributions, But the comic said he is a star instead of nuclear reactor
"I am the final STAR."
"Hes a living STAR."
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Dark-Nights-Death-Metal/Issue-7?id=180057#11
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Except the comic stated he is a star at least twice. So your nuclear reactor argument is moot since like you said they both have same contributions, But the comic said he is a star instead of nuclear reactor
Yeah no a nuclear reactor creates energy the same way a star does. Same kind of energy. It has its core and undergoes nuclear fusion. The SAME as a star. Read what I just posted
Originally posted by DarkSaint85There's actually a very big difference because in Hulk's case you actually get an explanation by PM and she's outright telling the reader the weight or force this thing is producing (you can still call hyperbole for all I care, I'm not here to defend Hulk). While in the Last Sun scan you have literally nothing in regards to his weight except you use real life physics and draw a conlusion based on that. You, for example, don't have Super Girl dash into Last Sun and say "I can't move him he's too heavy" or Lex running scans and say "His mass is increasing" or "of the charts" something DC likes to do quite often actually.
Then one can argue the same for Hulk.He doesn't sink into the ground despite this 'stellar' weight. Nothing is attracted to him despite the gravitational pull of this weight. I mean, geez, the relative close distance of this stellar weight compared to that between Marvel's Sun and Earth would throw it out of orbit, let alone the sheer tidal effects (hell, the Moon would come crashing into Marvel Earth).
But we handwave it all away for Hulk. And jump to the conclusion it HAS to be similar to RL red suns etc.
For example I have no problem with Superman's quintillion ton feat, does it make sense in regards of the ground? Not really but the writer in this situation is using character statements to let us know how much weight it actually is. Or Superman processing the information of the universe in a second or something because we are actually told what's going on.
For another example to not add extra shit to a feat, let's use Spider-Man's volcano explosion durability feat. We do know he was inside of the volcano and it's blown up. I'm not going and say it's even more impressive because he was weakened by all the carbonmonoxide and sulfur in the air (which in real life physics should have killed him anyway). While I do know that this is the case with real life volcanos it is obviously ignored by the writer and there's 0 on panel hints for that (statements or people coughing) to still apply such aspects. I'm not going and claim "but it's a volcano and volcanoes are like that" especially since Last Sun is not an ordinary star in the first place because he's a Superman who somehow became a star.
The very same applies for the weight of Last Sun. We have no direct statements nor on panel evidence for his weight. If anything the opposite is the case:
-Not the size of a star
-Not collapsing into a black hole since he's so small and has that amount of mass
-No gravitational pull of a star
-Standing on the ground with nothing happening when his solarvision clashed with Superman's
-The solarradiation he's emmiting is neither yellow nor red (because he's not amping kryptonians nor are they losing their powers) eventhough he's portrayed in yellow.
Overall tons of aspects get ignored all the time in comics (because superpowers aren't real) and the things we take into consideration are things actually shown or at least mentioned in the comic. None is the case in regards of Last Suns weight/mass.
Last Sun rapes a group of Hulks anyway.
None of this made a shred of sense1. Comic such as Marvel and Dc specifically do inject real world physics with the exception of magic and toon force. If this was not the case the calculation for most of flashes speed feats, the weight of the key to the fortress of solitude (made from dwarf star matter) and many other mentions would not have even been mentioned.
2. The proof is IN the actual feat. The writer literally stated the star that hulk held was a life bringing and destructive supernova before it was taken and given to PM as a spear. That is FACT. The only stars that undergo supernova are Red Giants or Super Red Giants. FACT! That same proceeding star the hulk was holding was said to be the weight of a star. We know it was a red giant before because of what was said. So it would at LEAST weight that much. FACT!
3. Last Son was said to be a living star. Cool, they clearly come in different shapes and sizes. Nuclear fusion creates what could be classed as a star. That does NOT make him the same weight as a stellar star. It’s never mentioned EVER, which is FACT!.
period. It's not up for dispute
Cool. So using RL physics, Marvel Earth would be destroyed once something with the mass of a supernova/red giant suddenly appeared on it.
It didn't get destroyed, therefore we can safely ignore what was shown on panel.
Also, Batman has super strength sufficient to swing arms filled with dozens of small red suns around.
And Superman has durability to take multiple punches from fists that weigh the equivalent of dozens of small red suns.
I am happy with this. Let's be consistent.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Cool. So using RL physics, Marvel Earth would be destroyed once something with the mass of a supernova/red giant suddenly appeared on it.It didn't get destroyed, therefore we can safely ignore what was shown on panel.
Also, Batman has super strength sufficient to swing arms filled with dozens of small red suns around.
And Superman has durability to take multiple punches from fists that weigh the equivalent of dozens of small red suns.
I am happy with this. Let's be consistent.
😂 Yeah No. That’s by YOUR logic.
1. batman had red sun SHRUNK DOWN BY DR PALMER AKA THE ATOM and put into the hands of a suit. This entire sentence debunks your claim. The fact that they were shrunken down should of been enough reference. These were all stated in the feat.
2. The fists did NOT weight the total of a dozen red suns. The red sun radiation sapped superman’s yellow sun radiation AS WE KNOW IT DOES. Again, another outrageous claim.
You're not proving anything, you have yet to do so.
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
I could say the same words to you. You didnt read or understand my post
You said they BOTH have these contributions but the comic stated it is a star,NOT a nuclear reactor. So put your
nuclear Fusion reactors create the same energy as stars. They were built to do exactly that. That's not up for dispute
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
But nuclear reactors produce energy through fission.Stars produce energy through fusion. I think you are getting the two mixed up, Albert 🙂
The Sun, like other stars, is a natural fusion reactor which transforms elements into released energy, where nuclear fusion reactors adopted stellar nucleosynthesis to transform elements into heavier elements with the release of energy on a smaller scale.
Stellar nucleosynthesis is the creation (nucleosynthesis) of chemical elements by nuclear fusion reactions within stars.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvilAnd the comic said he/it is a star thats also not up for dispute. I dont know why are you repeating the same words that didnt address or counter anything I said
nuclear Fusion reactors create the same energy as stars. They were built to do exactly that. That's not up for dispute
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
And the comic said he/it is a star thats also not up for dispute. I dont know why are you repeating the same words that didnt address or counter anything I said
To say the least, Lets assume what your said about nuclear fusion reactor and star is true. They both have same contributions. But the comic said its a star instead of nuclear reactor.
And that proves what exactly? Just because he has a CORE does NOT automatically mean he has the same mass as a stellar star. Again go back to the nuclear fusion mention. Those have cores too. BUT hur DuR NoPe Cuz nOT sTaTeD!
Originally posted by Diesldude
bro don’t be an Alberto.
You don’t see hulk get sliced through the earth while under stellar weight. You don’t see anyone else get pulled into the spear. The point is that we’re going by what is stated in the comic. He’s stated as a star. Had a core like a star so he’s a star by all accounts. Even though we know that the earth should have sucked into him.
Thats Cuz you understand science, or anything. at all.
The star the was in the spear underwent supernova. Do you think a star that underwent supernova would have the same if not a gravitational pull at all? Doesn’t dispute THE fact that it had mass on a stellar proportion when it was plucked out of the dimension.