Better feat

Originally posted by Diesldude
. So why weren’t things pulled to th spear? If an object has weight it has gravity. No one got pulled to the spear as far as I know.

I was actually not ready to commit to this feat but we’re going by statements. If carver, JBL, Thehulkster and Trollberto can accept the statement about the spear then why can’t they accept the statement in death metal?

um Pretty much looked like the spear itself, in the energy form, was all inside the hulk. That could explain why. But the main take away from this is that it was explicitly explained that it had weight.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
What statement?

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Let’s put it this way. Johnny storm goes supernova. This has been confirmed several times in comics that it was comparable to an actual supernova. He has never destroyed a planet due to it though a supernova would actually do so. Considering his size if he was a star the amount of destruction seems pretty legit for his size. Even the core of a star can be anywhere between the size of the moon to mercury. This same star has had time to build up mass through various fusion. Last Son is neither the size of the moon nor has he had the time to undergo fusion to create the mass necessary to compare to a normal sun. That being said, there is no reference to him weighing the same as our star. Just speculation from fans based on him being a star

This dude is an example of where our tax dollars go.

Lol. He was nowhere near the weight of a star. The things Superman fans try to sell and come up with is laughable and ridiculous.

Originally posted by carver9
How wasnt he on his knees when his knee is above the ground? Doesn't make sense.

Originally posted by Enzeru
I'm an idiot and I have no idea about physics, politics, laws or nature or any of that bullcrap... so someone help me out here:

Let's just say (for the sake of the argument) that Kill-All, the Last Son did in fact weigh as much as a star – which is why Luthor couldn't really handle him... Instead of, you know, Last Son simply being physically stronger and pushing back against Luthor.
But let's say he did weigh as much as a star. And he was on Earth. Wouldn't that have pulled plenty of characters into him? Because as far as I believe to know, a star has a much stronger gravitational pull than the Earth. So, if he did weigh as much as a star (and pretty much was a humanoid star), someone like Batman would have been stuck onto him 24/7 (probably worse than that).

The argument seems to be, that since Luthor couldn't handle Last Son (despite Luthors black hole powered suit), Last Son was as heavy as a star. But other than that there is absolutely nothing that hints at Last Son being an ACTUAL sentient star. Things would have automatically happened at that point.

In my eyes Luthor couldn't deal with Last Son, because he is weaker than Superman – and not because Last Son was too heavy for Luthor to handle. Also, having a black hole powered suit does not automatically mean that everything your suit does equals a black hole. And then when Luthor did release the black hole shenanigans... didn't Last Son die? Or did I miss something? I mean... I've seen Savage Hulk overpower black holes before :-7

My vote goes to Hulk by default, because it's much more clear cut. Hulk was pushing back against the actual weight of a star. Supermans showcase was rather iffy. At least from what I can tell. Feel free to prove me wrong.

So why didn't Earth and other people were pulled in the star's weight when Hulk was underneath it?

This is just hilarious.

Originally posted by abhilegend
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So why didn't Earth and other people were pulled in the star's weight when Hulk was underneath it?

This is just hilarious.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
It's a living star; an alt. reality Superman who got corrupted by a million suns before he arrived on his earth.

is that sentry's big brother?

Originally posted by Diesldude
that he is a star and even has the properties of one.

Is there a scan of the exact statement?

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Is there a scan of the exact statement?

Originally posted by JBL
Because it was focused on Hulk. Very simple to understand.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Lolwut?

How did you not understand that? His knees are not on the ground. Is that better?

Originally posted by JBL
Because it was focused on Hulk. Very simple to understand.

Originally posted by carver9
How did you not understand that? His knees are not on the ground. Is that better?

https://i.postimg.cc/WjBsw-TTh/image.jpg

Proxima is stronger than Hulk, huh?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Focusing on Hulk somehow negated its gravity?
Where are his knees except when Proxima yanks him up?

https://i.postimg.cc/WjBsw-TTh/image.jpg

Proxima is stronger than Hulk, huh?

Originally posted by abhilegend

So why didn't Earth and other people were pulled in the star's weight when Hulk was underneath it?

At this point we're overanalyzing everything to hilarious levels, even though the writers themselves didn't think any of this through. I'm gonna do it anyway:

Because in Hulks instance we were dealing with mystical cosmic mumbo-jumbo star-energies, which were focused on the Hulk and Hulk alone. Otherwise Hulk would have sunken into the ground and straight through the Earth, if the weight of of a star was resting on his shoulders. Especially because that would have also made Proximas strength levels rather questionable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8o0E2TA5ok
... at 0:50.

I think that theory could very well apply to Proximas speer and its star-weight-energy. And you don't see Mjolnir being pushed through the ground, because there are mystical aspects to all of it (as related to the video).

The Last Son is simply different. I could buy him not sinking through the ground due to him actually flying, while pretending to stand. But other than that there should be clearcut side-effects, which can't be excused with mystical mumbo-jumbo.

Originally posted by Enzeru
At this point we're overanalyzing everything to hilarious levels, even though the writers themselves didn't think any of this through. I'm gonna do it anyway:

😂

Its not overanalyzing when we do it for Superman?

Because in Hulks instance we were dealing with mystical cosmic mumbo-jumbo star-energies, which were focused on the Hulk and Hulk alone. Otherwise Hulk would have sunken into the ground and straight through the Earth, if the weight of of a star was resting on his shoulders. Especially because that would have also made Proximas strength levels rather questionable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8o0E2TA5ok
... at 0:50.

Exactly, so by the standard you're applying to Superman, Hulk never lifted star weight because Earth would be destroyed.

Also gravity doesn't works that way even if the weight was solely focused on Hulk via mystical (lol) cosmic mumbo jumbo. Earth would still be destroyed by the increased weight of Hulk and the star.

I think that theory could very well apply to Proximas speer and its star-weight-energy. And you don't see Mjolnir being pushed through the ground, because there are mystical aspects to all of it (as related to the video).

The Last Son is simply different. I could buy him not sinking through the ground due to him actually flying, while pretending to stand. But other than that there should be clearcut side-effects, which can't be excused with mystical mumbo-jumbo.

Why not?

Originally posted by abhilegend
😂

Its not overanalyzing when we do it for Superman?

Exactly, so by the standard you're applying to Superman, Hulk never lifted star weight because Earth would be destroyed.

Also gravity doesn't works that way even if the weight was solely focused on Hulk via mystical (lol) cosmic mumbo jumbo. Earth would still be destroyed by the increased weight of Hulk and the star.

Why not?

Originally posted by JBL
Abhil, that machine that Superman supposedly benched earth weight? Why didn't it and Superman sink into the ground from the force that machine exerted against Superman's pushing? Why didn't you mention that? Is it because it's Superman?

Originally posted by carver9
I cant see Dark post but I bet he voted for Hulk and isn't disputing Hulk showing and he is debating against Superman. Ill bet 50 cents on it. Dark isn't a DC fan, he debates for both companies and isn't bias. This thread proves it. Look at his post.

Actually, I'm being unbiased.

If we accept Hulk's feat, then we have to accept Superman's feat.

If we question Superman's feat, then we have to question Hulk's feat. Simple.

Saying things like oh, if Last Son was truly that heavy, the IRL physics he'd have attracted everyone towards him and destroyed the Earth, but handwave Proxima Midnight's spear away is.....biased.

It's mystical cosmic mumbo jumbo when it comes to Hulk but hardcore science when it comes to Superman.

Read the memo, geeze.