Better feat

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lol that's circular logic though.

Why is this a feat? Because Hulk lifted it.
What did he lift? Something heavy.
How do we know its heavy? Because Hulk lifted it.

Again, if we question one, we question both. If we accept one, we accept both.

Yeah no the difference is we already have confirmation of the spear weighing the same as the star and proof we have of it either being a super red giant or red giant. You can't say the same for the living "star" because there's zero confirmation or implication that he had stellar mass in the comic.

Originally posted by abhilegend
How was the spear shown heavy carter?

we know it was heavy because it was stated to be the weight of a star. Before that they stated it was both a life giving star and destructive supernova (a star undergoing its final stage of life span). It’s all mentioned in the page

Isn't Xorn's brain a star? How heavy is Xorn?

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Yeah no the difference is we already have confirmation of the spear weighing the same as the star and proof we have of it either being a super red giant or red giant. You can't say the same for the living "star" because there's zero confirmation or implication that he had stellar mass in the comic.

This is what exactly what I’m thinking. But I’ll continue to read on

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Isn't Xorn's brain a star? How heavy is Xorn?

The soul gem have a planet in it, so I guess when people lift it, they are benching planet weight...

https://m.imgur.com/a/LeFkw29

Originally posted by carver9
Why did Hulk fall to the ground and struggle to get back up?

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
we know it was heavy because it was stated to be the weight of a star. Before that they stated it was both a life giving star and destructive supernova (a star undergoing its final stage of life span). It’s all mentioned in the page

Neither was shown heavy, they are just described as heavy.

Originally posted by Booya_69
This is what exactly what I’m thinking. But I’ll continue to read on

Originally posted by carver9
The soul gem have a planet in it, so I guess when people lift it, they are benching planet weight...

https://m.imgur.com/a/LeFkw29

Originally posted by abhilegend
Its soul world, you know those really heavy souls you carry all day long?

I'm not talking about the souls, im talking about the PLANET that is inside of the gem. When TF did a planet gain a soul?

Carver, you're just going down red herrings with Xorn and the Soul Gem etc etc etc.

No one is disputing Hulk and his star now. NOBODY.

The issue is people are asking that it's consistent now that Superman has a similar feat. Which is where the meltdowns are occurring.

Back in the day, sure, people were questioning the feat when Hulk did it. But if Hulk has done it, so has Superman.

If I am a human, no matter what I weigh, I possess human level weight. Doesn't matter if I'm a one year old dwarf, or a fully grown Geck. I'm human, I have human mass.

Last Son is a star, he has star mass. He's made of hydrogen and helium.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Carver, you're just going down red herrings with Xorn and the Soul Gem etc etc etc.

No one is disputing Hulk and his star now. NOBODY.

The issue is people are asking that it's consistent now that Superman has a similar feat. Which is where the meltdowns are occurring.

Back in the day, sure, people were questioning the feat when Hulk did it. But if Hulk has done it, so has Superman.

If I am a human, no matter what I weigh, I possess human level weight. Doesn't matter if I'm a one year old dwarf, or a fully grown Geck. I'm human, I have human mass.

Last Son is a star, he has star mass. He's made of hydrogen and helium.

The Last Sun is not really a star at all. Due to the nature of his origins, his body has the physiology/energy structure? of one to support the energy and capabilities he has. This has nothing to indicate that he has the weight of it. This is just a Superman who got corrupted and possibly went through a million suns

Him having a stellar core, and being made out of helium etc Could be part of the corruption due to his origins. We have nukes and similar experiments operate on the same basis as a star, with no similar weight to that of an actual star.
We ALSO have stars of varying sizes and weights, yet most operate on the same hydrogen helium basis, so again shows the Last Sun DOESN'T have the weight of an ACTUAL star.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Last Son is a star, he has star mass. He's made of hydrogen and helium.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Isn't Xorn's brain a star? How heavy is Xorn?

he has a stars core in his head. He hasn’t got the mass or weight of a star. His powers work based on gravitational pull

Originally posted by abhilegend
So is this Superman called "living star" with consuming all matter in existence.

Neither was shown heavy, they are just described as heavy.

No, he wasn't. Last Son is not described as heavy, Go ahead and show me that statement where he was described as "heavy" confirmation>speculation and theory. 😂 Stop making shit up

The comic clearly states he IS a star.

If I have a dog, then by definition, it has....doggy mass. Doggy characteristics.

Because it is a dog.

Questioning it is like questioning Hulk's feat. Comic clearly states it was the weight of a star, but the comic never says how large this star is. You bring in all manner of "science" to theorise and speculate that it's possibly X tons or whatever..... but nowhere does the comic say how big this star is. But you add your speculation that PM refers to a full sized white dwarf or whatever, but don't for Superman.

Ultimately, it becomes circular logic.

The spear is heavy because Hulk is struggling with it. Hulk is strong because he is lifting something heavy. It's heavy because he struggles with it.

That's bias.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
That would make him lighter than humans.

Depends on how densely packed it is, no?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Carver, you're just going down red herrings with Xorn and the Soul Gem etc etc etc.

No one is disputing Hulk and his star now. NOBODY.

The issue is people are asking that it's consistent now that Superman has a similar feat. Which is where the meltdowns are occurring.

Back in the day, sure, people were questioning the feat when Hulk did it. But if Hulk has done it, so has Superman.

If I am a human, no matter what I weigh, I possess human level weight. Doesn't matter if I'm a one year old dwarf, or a fully grown Geck. I'm human, I have human mass.

Last Son is a star, he has star mass. He's made of hydrogen and helium.

If that’s the case then what you're saying is that ALL stars have the same mass. Though truthfully ALL stars have different mass based on the size of the core, it’s gravitational pull and mass created from various forms of fusion. he definitely will have a sizeable amount of mass but NOTHING comparable to a Stellar star. Unless this is ever mentioned in the future by a writer or simply stated in the comic that he has the same weight as a stellar star the sheer thought that he weighs even close to it is maniacal. That’s just the facts in front of us, period.

Last Son has a lot of mass based on the fact that he is a living star but in no way at all comparable to our star or even a white dwarf for that matter

The comic doesn't state how large the star is that's in Proxima's spear.

So until they say, it is by definition a tiny tiny star that's unquantifiable.

Using the same logic.