How many Borg (Star Trek) can Captain America take on at once?

Started by Silent Master6 pages
Originally posted by h1a8
Would someone's fist and feet be a weapon?
If no then how would it be different than something that is apart of someone (like a spider's fangs)?

So, Cherry Darling can use her machine gun in a no weapons fight?

Originally posted by h1a8
I disagree. It causes no harm and not meant to destroy.
So we agree to disagree.
Its up to the OP to clarify what he meant by weapons (phasers).

Destroying someone's free will = no harm?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Wolverine's claws are a part of his biology, yet in a no weapons fight they're usually disallowed

Is it usually excluded because more people in those particular instances were for it being excluded rather than included? Did the OP specify in those cases? Was there an actual mod ruling? How was this decided?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Is Cherry Darling allowed to use her machine gun in a no-weapons fight?

Cherry's circumstances are unique to her. Humans don't generally have legs amputated and replaced with guns, so I don't think her situation really applies to an entire group who all posses the same characteristics. It's why I used the more general scorpion example instead. Also, if we're getting into ranged stuff, per this logic, anyone who uses ranged attacks of some kind, even if they posses them naturally, would have them stripped away in a weaponless fight as well. Otherwise, it would arguably create a double standard if, say, Havok from the X-Men movies was matched up against a Predator who normally has a Plasmacaster, for example, if he were to be allowed to use his plasma powers but the the Predator not their weapon even though it causes the same ultimate effect.

But let's say a Xenomorph is included in a weaponless fight, which of its offensive and defensive abilities would you then choose to include or exclude from the fight? Would you exclude its claws, tongue, fangs and tail under those circumstances?

I personally think it's hard to know where to draw the line here, hence why I pose the question. Or maybe we should just ask a mod, because I certainly don't have the answer.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Destroying someone's free will = no harm?

There is no free will because of time travel (backwards).
Anyway, the discussion is boiling down to attached members being weapons since that would include hands and feet

Have fun trying to convince a mod that robots that rewrite a person's brain to make them into slaves don't count as weapons.

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Originally posted by Silent Master
Have fun trying to convince a mod that robots that rewrite a person's brain to make them into slaves don't count as weapons.

Who said anything about trying to "convince" a mod of anything? I suggested that we should maybe ask a mod for their input, as I'm personally unsure about which is the right call. Also, will you please address the other points and questions I raised?

I was responding to h1

Originally posted by Silent Master
Have fun trying to convince a mod that robots that rewrite a person's brain to make them into slaves don't count as weapons.

If a person has the ability to rewrite your brain with a touch of their hand then would that be considered a weapon?
What about if a person had the ability to ko you with a fist then would that be considered a weapon?

We are talking about injecting people with machines in order to re-write their brain and bodies. have fun convincing a mod the machines aren't weapons.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Who said anything about trying to "convince" a mod of anything? I suggested that we should maybe ask a mod for their input, as I'm personally unsure about which is the right call. Also, will you please address the other points and questions I raised?

Agree im 50/50 on it.

Can argue it both ways. Its a weapon, but also a pretty standard part of their abilities. And Not a hand held weapon they can just put down.

On the other hand though, what other weapons have the borg been known to use?

It's a weapon. It just attacks the inside of the body instead of the outside.

Originally posted by Silent Master
We are talking about injecting people with machines in order to re-write their brain and bodies. have fun convincing a mod the machines aren't weapons.

If that's your definition of a weapon then Caps hands and feet are weapons too.

Originally posted by h1a8
If that's your definition of a weapon then Caps hands and feet are weapons too.

Cap's hands and feet aren't machines that upon injection work to re-write the victims brain and the fact that you think they are, says a lot about you.

Hands and feet are natural weapoins, which are clearly allowed here. The nanite injectors are not natural.

This is a weird match then, it's Cap vs a bunch of guys who really don't fight H2H. The Borg's method is to slowly advance, grab and hold a target with their enhanced strength and then inject them. With no injectors, they're just trying to hold onto Cap in this setting. Weird.

Welp, if we have some of the more knowledgeable Star Trek posters, including one of the mods, saying it counts as a weapon, then that settles it IMO.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Welp, if we have some of the more knowledgeable Star Trek posters, including one of the mods, saying it counts as a weapon, then that settles it IMO.

I was just about to say the same thing.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Cap's hands and feet aren't machines that upon injection work to re-write the victims brain and the fact that you think they are, says a lot about you.

Weapons must harm right?
Is a snake's venom a weapon? The venom that upon injection work to phuck your insides up.

Originally posted by Robtard
Hands and feet are natural weapoins, which are clearly allowed here. The nanite injectors are not natural.

This is a weird match then, it's Cap vs a bunch of guys who really don't fight H2H. The Borg's method is to slowly advance, grab and hold a target with their enhanced strength and then inject them. With no injectors, they're just trying to hold onto Cap in this setting. Weird.

That's why Silent is trolling. He clearly doesn't see how dumb the thread becomes if the Borg are not allowed to use injections. Why even use Borg anyway? OP could just said "How many average adult men can Cap take at once" Obviously OP used Borg for a particular reason.

A mod has already ruled in it being a weapon because it is. You not liking it doesn't change anything.