Thor and Odin vs Superboy Prime

Originally posted by MrMind
1. why would he get bfr in the first place

2. you think someone who can destroy universe/multiverse, won't be able to break out a dimension...

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ruh-roh. everyone can see pretty clearly how terrible your stance is, so you continue to try and switch arguments. probably not how you saw this going down. 😂

anyway, i already had a perfectly reasonable discussion about the topic re: bfr and how it MIGHT work, with galan. not going through it with you. keep practicing. lol

Originally posted by MrMind
well....they are not gonna open any magic mumbo jumbo, when they can't even react to a punch to the face

proof of beyonder or living tribunal punching through dimension by hitting the air? nothing? I guess odin wins via bfr 😂
what kinda straw man argument is this

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Originally posted by leonidas
you must be really new. it works like this: you make a claim, you back it up. YOU made a claim (that if prime was bfr'd he could immediately...punch his way back), so YOU back it up. not that hard.

and sure, maybe he could destroy the dimension. just prove it by showing him punching space? the air? and destroying realities. and if he were on dc earth? he could punch space and destroy the dc multiverse? 😂

as for odin--you're saying what? he CAN'T bfr anyone in a vs match? 😂

but here:

https://imgur.com/a/GAGnMU8

this is tiresome. at this point you're trolling because even you have to understand how stupid your stance is. like i said, i'll chalk this up to a terrible day for you and hope you do better next time. 👆

buddy, nobody is taking a stance on anything, you just jump in the thread,

"omg prime cannot just punch air and get out of a dimensionzzz guysssss"

I am at work, I cannot post scans, I'm too lazy to find scans

but prime has dimensional travel multiple times

first time was infinite crisis secret files

second time it was punching through phantom zone

third time was during 52

fourth time was in dark knights death metal secret origin

during death metal, he punched darkest knight and shatter reality into pieces, he didn't punch a specific glass/wall, and he punched himself back to earth prime

it's so ridiculous that you want a feat so specific, you want prime only punch a hole through reality by punching the air, and assume this is the stance I was on. then you harass for 4 pages.

let me ask you this, give me someone who can travel from one dimension to another ONLY via punching the air, has eternity done it? has perpetua done it? has living tribunal done it? has darkest knight done it?

then why are you so fixated on this one thing and keep wasting my time on this fukin useless point

Originally posted by TheHulkster
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Originally posted by leonidas
😂

ruh-roh. everyone can see pretty clearly how terrible your stance is, so you continue to try and switch arguments. probably not how you saw this going down. 😂

anyway, i already had a perfectly reasonable discussion about the topic re: bfr and how it MIGHT work, with galan. not going through it with you. keep practicing. lol

you are taking this way too serious old man

I been on kmc long enough to not really put any effort into this

Originally posted by Parmaniac
What is this supposed to prove?

punching thin air into another dimension I would assume, it's such a dumb hill to die on

it doesn't really matter here,
1. prime is not leaving the battlefield
2. prime can easily destroy wherever pocket dimension he's trapped in

Originally posted by Galan007
I think Prime does indeed need *something* to punch. Every instance I can recall where he's broken reality required some kind of "target" for his punches.

So I agree that Prime likely couldn't just start throwing his fists around into thin air and subsequently shatter reality/return from a BFR... Unless the place he was sent had some kind of border for him to strike. /shrug

But either way, I don't see magical BFR necessarily working in the first place.

Originally posted by leonidas

https://imgur.com/a/GAGnMU8

did you....seriously just compared transporting puny humans.....to transporting sbp....

wtf is going on here

Originally posted by xJLxKing
He did get to Mxy just by thing thin air
There was no real boundary

yeah countdown

not 52,

my memory is shot

https://i.imgur.com/jtPmVGj.jpg

Originally posted by MrMind
did you....seriously just compared transporting puny humans.....to transporting sbp....

wtf is going on here

https://ibb.co/wsgmYFH

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https://i.imgur.com/jtPmVGj.jpg

Originally posted by MrMind
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Thought he was amped here?

He had the Guardian amp there, yeah.

That's why I don't consider it when taking into account what your standard Prime is capable of.

well...after death metal...standard prime has better feats than guardian amped

safe to say he's progressed beyond his level in countdown

Originally posted by MrMind
well...after death metal...standard prime has better feats than guardian amped

safe to say he's progressed beyond his level in countdown

Yeah, I don't really use GA's amp showings for my boy Prime. The fact that it was atrociously written also might be the reason lol.

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Yeah, I don't really use GA's amp showings for my boy Prime. The fact that it was atrociously written also might be the reason lol.

do you see current prime more powerful, or less powerful than his countdown self

if you think he's more powerful, then he can replicate what he did

If Thor with the odinforce lifts a boulder and says: "This is the maximum I can lift". Then he looses the odinforce and later in his carrer lifts an even bigger boulder does that mean all feats performed with the odinforce account for new Thor?

Originally posted by Galan007
I don't think Prime can see through magics, no(or at least I can't remember an instance where he has.) But direct magical attacks typically have almost no effect on him... That's why the Asgardians *poofing* him away with their magics is questionable, imo.

Not sure how they'd trick him into a BFR, though..? Unless he falls for something like this:

I know Prime isn't the sharpest tool in the shed, but falling for something like that is a stretch(even for him, lol.)

But I mean, if Prime just blitzes them from the onset, BFR likely wouldn't be a factor anyway(assuming it even could work.) /shrug

Wouldn't Odin be able to react? His visual perception is greater than Heimdall's I think.

He could, but how is he gonna block punches that can harm darkest knight