Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
This fight really should end this debate, but it probably will not. Perhaps the entire fight should be posted to show that Gladiator has better combat skills? This is like pitting two guys against each other, their both roughly the same, but one guy is a seasoned warrior while the other isn't.
In most cases the seasoned warrior would win. This is simple stuff. Gladiator wins.
different versions of hype though, so the result may be different. not sure if there's enough info on avengers hype to really fairly comment, though i have. also, different hype's seem to vary in levels of power. this one held universes apart if you take things at place value, so not unreasonable to think this one is stronger than the other one. i think it's close, regardless.
Originally posted by leonidasDidn't he also one shot the Hulk?
different versions of hype though, so the result may be different. not sure if there's enough info on avengers hype to really fairly comment, though i have. also, different hype's seem to vary in levels of power. this one held universes apart if you take things at place value, so not unreasonable to think this one is stronger than the other one. i think it's close, regardless.
Originally posted by carver9
Huge hypocrite. It's vomit worthy.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvilThe stars were hauled by "pulling" them with the chains. "Haul" means "to pull".
And the chains feat happened off panel, we don't know how they were "hauled" etc it was a ****ing statement but that's acceptable to you. You're one of the biggest hypocrites i know flat out.
There are many different ways to "Contain".
Shield with body is one such way. Hence possibly a durability feat (not strength).
Originally posted by h1a8
The stars were hauled by "pulling" them with the chains. "Haul" means "to pull".There are many different ways to "Contain".
Shield with body is one such way. Hence possibly a durability feat (not strength).
So now statements count? You wanted to discredit it the first time by mentioning statements as not being factual but when someone call you out, you want to nitpick words out of the statements. You're not fooling anyone.
Originally posted by MrMind
are you calling yourself hypocrite? because you are the piece of turd who says off panel feats don't count, at the same time keep bringing up gladiator's off panel feats.do you not see the irony?
We see him hit by the explosion, he contains the explosion, we see the star AFTER he contained it and we see him flying out of the area of the explosion. Whats so hard to understand here?
Originally posted by leonidas
different versions of hype though, so the result may be different. not sure if there's enough info on avengers hype to really fairly comment, though i have. also, different hype's seem to vary in levels of power. this one held universes apart if you take things at place value, so not unreasonable to think this one is stronger than the other one. i think it's close, regardless.
The closest to a true fight with any character of note was when he fought Namor. He wasn't exactly fist palming Namor's punches, or treating him like fodder. I feel safe in my assumption that he's within Gladiator's strength range. However, Hyperion isn't a seasoned warrior with a penchant to kill his opponents.
Originally posted by Philosophía
You can't explain the validity of "my dad is the greatest, I bet he can beat your dad" to carver becauseWell..
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Hm.
If we equalize the speed, would this thread change?
Who is stronger? more durable? has better eye-beams? more skilled?
I can't even explain the existence of carver9, can you?
Originally posted by carver9
So now statements count? You wanted to discredit it the first time by mentioning statements as not being factual but when someone call you out, you want to nitpick words out of the statements. You're not fooling anyone.
Superman broke the chains on panel.
Gladiator didn't tear a black hole on panel.
See the difference?
If Gladiator would have ripped an object, on panel, that was STATED to be stronger than 100 planets stacked then we can go by the statement.
Random objects can be stated to be as strong as it is worded.
Do you believe that Sentry stalemating Galactus from Spider-Mans words should be counted as a feat for Sentry?
Originally posted by h1a8Show a scan of those chains hauling stars on panel.
Superman broke the chains on panel.
Gladiator didn't tear a black hole on panel.See the difference?
If Gladiator would have ripped an object, on panel, that was STATED to be stronger than 100 planets stacked then we can go by the statement.
Random objects can be stated to be as strong as it is worded.
Do you believe that Sentry stalemating Galactus from Spider-Mans words should be counted as a feat for Sentry?