Gladiator vs Hyperion

Originally posted by h1a8
Superman broke the chains on panel.
Gladiator didn't tear a black hole on panel.

See the difference?

If Gladiator would have ripped an object, on panel, that was STATED to be stronger than 100 planets stacked then we can go by the statement.

Random objects can be stated to be as strong as it is worded.
Do you believe that Sentry stalemating Galactus from Spider-Mans words should be counted as a feat for Sentry?

The chain fts, nothing but statements. Gladiator ripping the black hole, nothing but a statement. H1 accepts the statement for the chains but he doesn't accept the statement for Gladiator.

The guy who mentioned the chain ft is a compulsive liar.
Gladiator son has not been confirmed as being such.

H1 doesn't care about this because he is a hypocrite. Do you get it now?

Originally posted by MrMind
I can't even explain the existence of carver9, can you?

I'm here for you. When you leave KMC, I'll be right behind you.

Post your nudes, carv.

Originally posted by carver9
I'm here for you. When you leave KMC, I'll be right behind you.

You are trolling now. You didn't address what I posted.
Statements for random objects ALWAYS count. Statements for characters do not always count, especially when their best showings contradict such statements.

Originally posted by h1a8
Superman broke the chains on panel.
Gladiator didn't tear a black hole on panel.

See the difference?

Originally posted by h1a8
You are trolling now. You didn't address what I posted.
Statements for random objects ALWAYS count. Statements for characters do not always count, especially when their best showings contradict such statements.

Who told you this? Where did you get this from? You're just making up crap to cover yourself.

Originally posted by lawest9
😄 pot meet kettle.

That works too.

==

Okay seriously? Get back on topic. All of you.

Lol. Wow.

Originally posted by carver9
The chain fts, nothing but statements. Gladiator ripping the black hole, nothing but a statement. H1 accepts the statement for the chains but he doesn't accept the statement for Gladiator.

"this Crane is used to lift 100 tons and it ripped in half when it tried to lift your mother"

and

"your mother is so fat I saw her eat other moms"

?

False.

One cannot rip metal.

"Mom, can we please go to a construction site? I have to check something"

Originally posted by carver9
Who told you this? Where did you get this from? You're just making up crap to cover yourself.

The mod ruling on Sentry stalemating Galactus because Spidey-Man said it happened. At the time, Sentry power level was nowhere near able to stalemate Galactus (using Sentry's best feat).

The narration is different though. The narrator has more credibility.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Beat me to it. I was just making this thread up in my head as well...

I would class them as:

1 Feats not depending on art - taken as gospel. Nobody here questions that Superman can fly, for example.

2. Feats depending on art - Drax's anti-Thanos aura, some depictions of speed fighting, and bullet-timing.

3. In-character narration. By this I mean, if Reed or Pym says that he's tested Cyclops' eye blasts, and they contain the equivalent of 1 million Newtons, we believe him. I won't believe Johnny Storm if he said this.

4. Comic Narration. This one is a bit iffy, particularly when we start looking at the Silver Age or pre-crisis comics.

5. Character narration. Spiderman telling the story of the Sentry stalemating Galactus.

Originally posted by carver9
Perfect way of putting it. You are a pretty good poster.

With this posts this thread can be closed.

Click on the 'post' hyperlink to see how Carver agreed on this.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Click on the 'post' hyperlink to see how Carver agreed on this.

Originally posted by h1a8
Superman broke the chains on panel.
Gladiator didn't tear a black hole on panel.

See the difference?

If Gladiator would have ripped an object, on panel, that was STATED to be stronger than 100 planets stacked then we can go by the statement.

Random objects can be stated to be as strong as it is worded.
Do you believe that Sentry stalemating Galactus from Spider-Mans words should be counted as a feat for Sentry?

My point is the chains feat was pure hyperbole, It was unbreakable up until that point as Supes was the first to break free meaning it was hyperbole. But you ignore that to deep throat superman more on threads. Even if you think it's "legit", it's an outlier seeing as Superman doesn't have an actual star moving feat (this version specifically) to establish consistency.

Originally posted by h1a8
The stars were hauled by "pulling" them with the chains. "Haul" means "to pull".

There are many different ways to "Contain".
Shield with body is one such way. Hence possibly a durability feat (not strength).

On panel feats are first. Statements should only count when they can be irrefutably quantified. Take that Superman and the star hauling chains for example. questions like do the star provide any resistance when being pulled? Does the chain serve as a containment unit for unstable stars? What kind of Metal are those chains made of? Is it considered one of the strongest metals in the DC universe/multiverse
There are too many unknowns to say that Superman breaking out of those chains is a solid strength feat.

Yet when Proxima Midnight's spear is used......

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
On panel feats are first. Statements should only count when they can be irrefutably quantified. Take that Superman and the star hauling chains for example. questions like do the star provide any resistance when being pulled? Does the chain serve as a containment unit for unstable stars? What kind of Metal are those chains made of? Is it considered one of the strongest metals in the DC universe/multiverse
There are too many unknowns to say that Superman breaking out of those chains is a solid strength feat.

Originally posted by lawest9
I'm sorry but common sense would say otherwise, chains that can pull stars and planets out of their would have to be off of the charts powerful, we may not know the material that they are may of but they would have to had been made our of a material far stronger than even Adamantium, high level feat for Superman.

if Superman was pulling the chain connected to a star, then it'd be stellar weight.

But in this case, he was ONLY restrained by it. Nothing to suggest the chain was exerting a stellar force on him. We only know its supposed to be unbreakable

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
if Superman was pulling the chain connected to a star, then it'd be stellar weight.

But in this case, he was ONLY restrained by it. Nothing to suggest the chain was exerting a stellar force on him. We only know its supposed to be unbreakable

Originally posted by lawest9
It would have to be unbreakable to pull stars

It would have to be able to support the pull of a star weight at minimum yes. The cable itself doesnt have to weight as heavy as one though