Well no, it doesn't have to weigh as much as a star - whoever argues that is silly.
However, the tensile strength of the chains was overcome by Superman - even though they're strong enough to haul stars. That's the impressive part.
They're strong enough to take the force applied to them by a star's mass.
Originally posted by lawest9
But obviously the material does.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Well no, it doesn't have to weigh as much as a star - whoever argues that is silly.However, the tensile strength of the chains was overcome by Superman - even though they're strong enough to haul stars. That's the impressive part.
They're strong enough to take the force applied to them by a star's mass.
It's like you dudes never learn. How many chains are hooked to a star? What's pulling the stair? I've been able to push a 2 ton van up the street when it's ran out of gas. There's no type or resistance when pulling a star either. It's THAT simple.
I can use a rope to tie it around something and drag it somewhere. It's not offering resistance at all. if I threw a ball in space would it stop or stay in motion? once it got moving it's easy peazy. It might be multiple chains connected to the star via multiple ships also. So one or two wouldn't be the same as x also tugging around the same amount of weight.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvilIt's like you dudes never learn. How many chains are hooked to a star? What's pulling the stair? I've been able to push a 2 ton van up the street when it's ran out of gas. There's no type or resistance when pulling a star either. It's THAT simple.
There is resistance.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
There is resistance.
Newton's first law of motion – sometimes referred to as the law of inertia states that an object at rest stays at rest, and an object in motion stays in motion with the same speed and in the same direction unless acted upon by an unbalanced force.
Once again, I have a chain that can haul/pull 5 tractors from Georgia to California, BUT, if just one of those tractors resist, SNAP! goes my chain. In other words, if Superman and Hyperion used those chains that Superman broke in a tug of war, the chains would snap. We know this for two reasons, 1. Superman broke them. 2. The person who said they were unbreakable, is a liar and villain.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
What resistance is there when the sun isn't actively fighting against the ship? Unless there is a larger object around there wouldn't be anything like gravity to affect it.
The resistance is in the inertia.
To be clear, when you acceleration a mass you exert a force that is equal to F=ma.
You can't just accelerate a massive object without a force.
The star has to travel from 0 speed to many times faster than light speed in a reasonable amount of time.
Lol. I am not sure what is worse, you trying to sound smart by quoting things you don't understand, or your arrogance.
1. Where do these stars come from?
2. Where are they going?
3. Why is gravity not affecting it? You DO know gravity is present everywhere in the universe, right?
If they are hauling stars from point A to point B, at point A it will be subject to gravity. Same as at point B. And in fact, along every single point along their journey. Just think.
Originally posted by h1a8
The resistance is in the inertia.
To be clear, when you acceleration a mass you exert a force that is equal to F=ma.You can't just accelerate a massive object without a force.
The star has to travel from 0 speed to many times faster than light speed in a reasonable amount of time.
Is there ANYTHING stating how fast or far there going with pulling stars? I mean there is multiple variables that are left unanswered here and you keep ignoring that.
Originally posted by JBL
Once again, I have a chain that can haul/pull 5 tractors from Georgia to California, BUT, if just one of those tractors resist, SNAP! goes my chain. In other words, if Superman and Hyperion used those chains that Superman broke in a tug of war, the chains would snap. We know this for two reasons, 1. Superman broke them. 2. The person who said they were unbreakable, is a liar and villain.
No. If you pull a 10kg object with a chain at an acceleration of 10m/s^2 then you would be pulling with a force of 100N. The tension would be 100N.
This is equivalent of one pulling the chain with 50N and another pulling with 50N in the opposite direction. The tension would still be 100N.
In other words, take half the feat and that would be the amount both Superman and Hyperion must pull with (tug of war) in order to reach the same tension force.
Originally posted by h1a8
The mod ruling on Sentry stalemating Galactus because Spidey-Man said it happened. At the time, Sentry power level was nowhere near able to stalemate Galactus (using Sentry's best feat).The narration is different though. The narrator has more credibility.
That wasn't a narrator that mentioned the chains being pulled. What in the hell.
Originally posted by JBL
Once again, I have a chain that can haul/pull 5 tractors from Georgia to California, BUT, if just one of those tractors resist, SNAP! goes my chain. In other words, if Superman and Hyperion used those chains that Superman broke in a tug of war, the chains would snap. We know this for two reasons, 1. Superman broke them. 2. The person who said they were unbreakable, is a liar and villain.
That's not what's being argued.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lol. I am not sure what is worse, you trying to sound smart by quoting things you don't understand, or your arrogance.1. Where do these stars come from?
2. Where are they going?
3. Why is gravity not affecting it? You DO know gravity is present everywhere in the universe, right?If they are hauling stars from point A to point B, at point A it will be subject to gravity. Same as at point B. And in fact, along every single point along their journey. Just think.
There are way to many variables to consider in this.
Originally posted by h1a8Wrong. My chain can pull a 90 thousand ton aircraft carrier across the Atlantic ocean. Now put that carrier on land and let me try it. The key is resistance. So we have a chain that can pull 90 thousand tons of carrier with very little resistance across water, yet would snapped like a twig trying to drag 5 50 ton tanks across land.
No. If you pull a 10kg object with a chain at an acceleration of 10m/s^2 then you would be pulling with a force of 100N. The tension would be 100N.This is equivalent of one pulling the chain with 50N and another pulling with 50N in the opposite direction. The tension would still be 100N.
In other words, take half the feat and that would be the amount both Superman and Hyperion must pull with (tug of war) in order to reach the same tension force.
Originally posted by JBL
Wrong. My chain can pull a 90 thousand ton aircraft carrier across the Atlantic ocean. Now put that carrier on land and let me try it. The key is resistance. So we have a chain that can pull 90 thousand tons of carrier with very little resistance across water, yet would snapped like a twig trying to drag 5 50 ton tanks across land.
Got a link to this chain? Brand name?