The Falcon and the Winter Soldier

Started by TheVaultDweller8 pages

The Falcon and The Winter Soldier

Seeing as we finally got a full trailer and this is dropping next month, I thought I'd make a thread about it:

YouTube video

Looks like Zemo is back. Wonder how he's walking around free again.

I'm quite interested in this one as I like both these characters.

Someone broke him out or he used his sizeable intelligence to break himself out.

Looks like fun. Will watch.

looks pretty good

didnt see the trailer, did read an article it undoes the endgame ending

does it?

Originally posted by Surtur
didnt see the trailer, did read an article it undoes the endgame ending

does it?

huh

https://www.inverse.com/entertainment/falcon-winter-soldier-trailer-breakdown-shield-sam-bucky

That article doesn't mean much. It's just a journalist making a huge speculative leap because of Bucky catching the shield during one shot in the trailer. For all we know, it's just a callback to CA:TWS where Bucky caught Cap's shield the first time Steve threw it at him.

I honestly hope to see a "throwing the shield is hard" training montage. That'd be sweet.

Originally posted by Robtard
Someone broke him out or he used his sizeable intelligence to break himself out.

IOW, he put on a leather jacket and baseball cap and walked out. 😄

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
That article doesn't mean much. It's just a journalist making a huge speculative leap because of Bucky catching the shield during one shot in the trailer. For all we know, it's just a callback to CA:TWS where Bucky caught Cap's shield the first time Steve threw it at him.

And Civil War where both Cap and Bucky used the shield to take down Tony.

Though in this show, I can see them having a 'who is really worthy of being the next Captain America' angle, at least for a bit. With Sam ultimately getting it as a means to push that you don't need super-powers to be Cap, just have your heart in the right place.

Originally posted by Robtard
And Civil War where both Cap and Bucky used the shield to take down Tony.

Though in this show, I can see them having a 'who is really worthy of being the next Captain America' angle, at least for a bit. With Sam ultimately getting it as a means to push that you don't need super-powers to be Cap, just have your heart in the right place.

Yeah, plus Sam seems to actually be using the shield in combat at the 1:17-1:18 mark in the trailer.

I wonder if US Agent will be stronger than Cap like in comics? Cap is pretty beastly and to make him even stronger would put him at like Luke Cage level or thereabouts.

Originally posted by KingD19
I wonder if US Agent will be stronger than Cap like in comics? Cap is pretty beastly and to make him even stronger would put him at like Luke Cage level or thereabouts.

that might be possible but so far viewing the trailer it seems he might not do any strength feats

Re: The Falcon and The Winter Soldier

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
and this is dropping next month

Sweet.

Cant wait.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
That article doesn't mean much. It's just a journalist making a huge speculative leap because of Bucky catching the shield during one shot in the trailer. For all we know, it's just a callback to CA:TWS where Bucky caught Cap's shield the first time Steve threw it at him.

clip of bucky looks modern tho not old

Originally posted by Surtur
clip of bucky looks modern tho not old

Okay. And? I didn't say flashback. I said callback. As in they are referencing something that happened previously by having it (or something similar) happen again. And as I pointed out, Sam is the one who appears to actually be using the shield in combat at 1:17-1:18 in the trailer.

Though it should be noted that Anthony Mackie, the guy who plays Falcon, said that while Steve chose Sam to be the new Cap in EG, Sam never actually agreed to it in the film. So, maybe Sam is the one struggling with the idea of stepping into Cap's shoes. It is a pretty big legacy to live up to.

Falcon probably throws the Shield to WS when he needs it (remember Cap and WS both throwing it to each other to use against IM), and WS may need to pick it up now and then after Falcon drops it (remember BW picking it up for Cap in AOU).

And lets face it, WS will be far better at throwing and catching the Shield.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Falcon probably throws the Shield to WS when he needs it (remember Cap and WS both throwing it to each other to use against IM), and WS may need to pick it up now and then after Falcon drops it (remember BW picking it up for Cap in AOU).

And lets face it, WS will be far better at throwing and catching the Shield.

Well, yeah, from a purely physical standpoint Bucky is the more logical choice as a replacement, also being a super soldier. But the idea seems to be more focused around the spirit and character of the individual rather than physical capability.

Admittedly, a vibranium shield bash/throw from Bucky using his vibranium arm would probably be pretty devastating to whatever it hits.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Falcon probably throws the Shield to WS when he needs it (remember Cap and WS both throwing it to each other to use against IM), and WS may need to pick it up now and then after Falcon drops it (remember BW picking it up for Cap in AOU).

And lets face it, WS will be far better at throwing and catching the Shield.

They should have a scene where they're at the beach passing the shield back and forth like a frisbee