The Falcon and the Winter Soldier

Started by Surtur8 pages

They should create new characters, like the Autumn Soldier and Spring Soldier.

A couple more TV spots for this:

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I quite enjoy the chemistry between these two.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
I quite enjoy the chemistry between these two.

Yeah will be cool to get a superhero version of a buddy cop movie. Like a Super Lethal Weapon.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Yeah will be cool to get a superhero version of a buddy cop movie. Like a Super Lethal Weapon.

Yeah, and there are supposed to be a few other characters and cameos as well. I saw War Machine in some of the other footage, and we know Sharon Carter is going to play a role too.

On a side note, that look on Bucky's face when Sam makes the hat comment is priceless.

They're dropping a lot of short teasers now though. I really wonder WTF is the story around what's shown from 0:08 onward.

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Final Trailer

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Thought the 1st episode was excellent.

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Love that they introduced Johnny Walker.

pretty decent start...

i feel

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the thunderbolts will be introduced and formed

Decent start IMO. It was a bit slow in parts, but I understand why. They wanted to give us a firm idea of where both characters are at in their lives after Endgame before jumping into the main story.

Opening scene was great. Batroc in a wingsuit is exactly the right way to kick things off, lol

Everything else felt like set-up so we’ll just have to see where it goes. The test for me will be whether the show can get both main characters out of Cap’s shadow enough to make this more than the sidekick series.

I really enjoyed it, good combo of action and building.

This also felt like it had more money thrown into it than WandaVision.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Decent start IMO. It was a bit slow in parts, but I understand why. They wanted to give us a firm idea of where both characters are at in their lives after Endgame before jumping into the main story.
Agree 100%
Originally posted by Smurph
Opening scene was great. Batroc in a wingsuit is exactly the right way to kick things off, lol

Everything else felt like set-up so we’ll just have to see where it goes. The test for me will be whether the show can get both main characters out of Cap’s shadow enough to make this more than the sidekick series.

Agree 100%
Originally posted by Robtard
I really enjoyed it, good combo of action and building.

This also felt like it had more money thrown into it than WandaVision.

Agree 100%

Agree 300% fer sure! mmm

You're very agreeable 😛

New episode was f*cking amazing. We get to see

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Isaiah Bradley the black man who replaced Steve after he got frozen. He was the only survivor of horrible Super Soldier experiments done on black men, and after serving his country was hidden away and imprisoned because they couldn't handle publicly proclaiming a Black Cap. And as Captain America he was strong enough to rip Bucky's arm in half. Even in his old age, he still has incredible strength and would probably wipe the floor with anyone like M'Baku level and down. We also get confirmation that Power Broker can give people at least Super Soldier(Bucky, Steve, T'Challa) level powers and that probably means Walker's gonna get a few doses to get to US Agent levels.

We also see just how much race plays into the world even today.

great episode... wyatt russell is gonna be awesome as he progresses thru the series

Originally posted by KingD19
New episode was f*cking amazing. We get to see
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Isaiah Bradley the black man who replaced Steve after he got frozen. He was the only survivor of horrible Super Soldier experiments done on black men, and after serving his country was hidden away and imprisoned because they couldn't handle publicly proclaiming a Black Cap. And as Captain America he was strong enough to rip Bucky's arm in half. Even in his old age, he still has incredible strength and would probably wipe the floor with anyone like M'Baku level and down. We also get confirmation that Power Broker can give people at least Super Soldier(Bucky, Steve, T'Challa) level powers and that probably means Walker's gonna get a few doses to get to US Agent levels.

We also see just how much race plays into the world even today.

Walker might

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not need multiple doses. They've made it clear he's already pretty much the pinnacle of what an unenhanced human can be, so I imagine that with the Super Soldier Serum he'd probably end up above any of the Super Soldiers that have come before him, having a stronger base to work from.

I just hope Bucky's going to

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stop basically being useless at some point. So far, all he's basically done is mope, gotten his ass kicked, been shown up tactically, been outperformed during the truck fight by a physically inferior noob to the superhero game (Walker, who did better in that fight than Bucky did), needed rescuing by Sam and has gotten arrested. Even his cooler feats have been undermined, like jumping from the plane where it was played for laughs or outpacing the trucks by immediately getting whooped by Karli. At this point Sam would probably be better off actually teaming up with Walker.


I just hope Bucky's going to
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stop basically being useless at some point. So far, all he's basically done is mope, gotten his ass kicked, been shown up tactically, been outperformed during the truck fight by a physically inferior noob to the superhero game (Walker, who did better in that fight than Bucky did), needed rescuing by Sam and has gotten arrested. Even his cooler feats have been undermined, like jumping from the plane where it was played for laughs or outpacing the trucks by immediately getting whooped by Karli. At this point Sam would probably be better off actually teaming up with Walker.
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Agree with all that.

I think you're all missing the point of his broken psychology at this point. Its only been a brief point since he came back from the Blip, and there's also the fact he was used as a ****ing HYDRA agent multiple times. He even says in the first episode that's he only had a brief time to breathe and find himself. He's not operating 100% and Sam being a little ***** and rejecting the shield probably does create a rift between them. And yeah he got caught off guard twice, I wouldnt've written the fight that way but it is what it is. Personally, I would've given the shield to Bucky as he's the closest to Cap in physicals and skill. Sam's storyline is completely uninteresting to me

No, I get that he's damaged and working through stuff. But that doesn't change the fact that we're 1/3 of the way through the show and he has yet to make any meaningful positive contribution. And some stuff is just stupid. Like

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him wanting to just rush into the fight with the Flagsmashers because "I have a vibranium arm", without doing any proper recon. Even in CA:CW, when he was arguably even worse mentally, he still had the foresight to prep and have an escape plan in place if his apartment got found and raided. He's supposed to be a war veteran and elite assassin, yet he acted like an amateur in the scene from the last episode.

episode was okay, but the whole "white man oppressing the black man" plotline just isnt needed IMO. less of that, and more of bucky actually becoming a decent character again. please.