Originally posted by h1a8
Nam blitzed Superman when he tried to blitz Faora.
Nam is Kryptonian and has superhuman speed by default.Prove that Vision runs faster than Faora. Stating it isn't proof.
Vision can not harm Nam based of his strength to Nam's durability.
You keep saying this but I never saw this superhuman blitz you speak of.
Its only a new series and I cant find clips yet. Maybe you should watch the show if you want to discuss.
Suffice to say Nam has never displayed that level of superhuman speed. So if you were to be consistent and reasonable in your argumentation then you would be claiming that Vision blitzes Nam.
Add intangibility, flight and the mind stone, this fight is so one sided its almost spite.
Originally posted by h1a8
So if someone's flesh can withstand more than 10,000 tons of force then their insides are so weak that a human can damage their heart with a punch?No? Then you must provide proof (not me) to how much force can someone insides take if their hands can take over 10,000 tons of force, tank blows from Superman without damage, and tank full powered HV from Superman without damage.
You made the claim, now prove it. No speculation or opinions. Just facts. Do the math.
Oh my lord. You're just being dense on purpose now.
First thing is first, Vision isnt a human. He casually tears steel apart with his bare hands. Where did you come up with a normal human attempting the feat against Nam-Ek? Is your comprehension skills that weak?
In your world, Nam-Eks innards are as durable as his out side epidermis correct? Take a turtle or an armadillo for example. Thats some stout protection they have on the outside isnt it? If you remove that and cut one of them open, how hard are their organs?
Do an experiment for me. Poke your arm with your finger. Nothing right? Now make an incision on your arm and poke your finger into the wound. How does that feel? Yeah, its not the same is it?
Its too late for you to bow out gracefully so quit acting dumb and just bow out.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
You keep saying this but I never saw this superhuman blitz you speak of.Its only a new series and I cant find clips yet. Maybe you should watch the show if you want to discuss.
I got them for you as we all know H1 hasent watched the show and entered yet another thread with no knowledge of one of the characters. Annoying isnt it?
Originally posted by KingD19
The way phasing works is that Vision could just phase Nam's heart and pull it out of his body. It bypasses durability. Or he could phase into his body and increase the density on his hand to super high levels and just squeeze a ventrical and cut off blood flow.
H1's pathetic argument is that the Vision isnt strong enough to do that. 😆
Originally posted by KingD19
We all know his actual argument is that "I want Nam-Ek to win so I'll say whatever I want to make it seem like thats the likely scenario while ignoring everyone and saying only my "facts" matter."
Using h1's logic, phasing adamantium into Nam's heart wouldn't hurt. since adamantium doesn't have any strength feats.
Originally posted by tkitna
I got them for you as we all know H1 hasent watched the show and entered yet another thread with no knowledge of one of the characters. Annoying isnt it?
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Originally posted by tkitna
I got them for you as we all know H1 hasent watched the show and entered yet another thread with no knowledge of one of the characters. Annoying isnt it?
Vision is slow as shit there. I (a human) could have popped him before he prevented the food from falling. I would guess about 30-50mph running speeds?
Originally posted by Silent MasterThis is not comic Vision. Vision is shown phasing his hand into things and then manipulating objects.
Using h1's logic, phasing adamantium into Nam's heart wouldn't hurt. since adamantium doesn't have any strength feats.
Originally posted by tkitna
Oh my lord. You're just being dense on purpose now.First thing is first, Vision isnt a human. He casually tears steel apart with his bare hands. Where did you come up with a normal human attempting the feat against Nam-Ek? Is your comprehension skills that weak?
In your world, Nam-Eks innards are as durable as his out side epidermis correct? Take a turtle or an armadillo for example. Thats some stout protection they have on the outside isnt it? If you remove that and cut one of them open, how hard are their organs?
Do an experiment for me. Poke your arm with your finger. Nothing right? Now make an incision on your arm and poke your finger into the wound. How does that feel? Yeah, its not the same is it?
Its too late for you to bow out gracefully so quit acting dumb and just bow out.
I never claimed Nam's insides were as durable as his outside. You have to prove (using science and math) how much force his insides can take if his outsides can take over 10,000 tons of force. Then you must prove that Vision can apply that amount of force with his hand only. Otherwise, you are speculating and stating opinions with no actual factual science basis.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
You keep saying this but I never saw this superhuman blitz you speak of.Its only a new series and I cant find clips yet. Maybe you should watch the show if you want to discuss.
Suffice to say Nam has never displayed that level of superhuman speed. So if you were to be consistent and reasonable in your argumentation then you would be claiming that Vision blitzes Nam.
Add intangibility, flight and the mind stone, this fight is so one sided its almost spite.
Ok fair. Give an episode number and preferably a timestamp with it.
Look at 2;08
YouTube video
Originally posted by KingD19
The way phasing works is that Vision could just phase Nam's heart and pull it out of his body. It bypasses durability. Or he could phase into his body and increase the density on his hand to super high levels and just squeeze a ventrical and cut off blood flow.
1. Vision has to display such techniques in battle to prove propensity.
2. Nam will not remain still in order for Vision to do such things.
3. You have to prove that Vision can gain enough density/strength/force to squeeze a ventricle.
Originally posted by riv6672
You provided your opinion.
So Nam didn't take punches from Superman or resist Superman's HV? Those are opinions?
Nam didn't exert over 10,000 tons of force? That's an opinion too?
Originally posted by Silent Master
He doesn't have to prove anything, you're the one claiming that Nam's internals are immune, that means the burden is on you.Edit: Also, that wasn't a blitz. Superman was clearly visible to the human eye. so he wasn't exactly moving at superspeed. Nor was Nam
Being visible to the eye doesn't mean NO SUPERSPEED. Superspeed means above a human. Nam was shown to zip to Superman quickly. It was clearly faster than a human, therefore superhuman speeds.
Vision was shown to be visible to the human eye. I guess he doesn't move with superspeed either. 🙄
Originally posted by h1a8
So Nam didn't take punches from Superman or resist Superman's HV? Those are opinions?
Originally posted by h1a8
Nam didn't exert over 10,000 tons of force? That's an opinion too?