Bet Ray Bill vs Orion.

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Originally posted by DarkSaint85
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Originally posted by -Pr-
It's a general "look at the kind of thing this character is capable of" feat. No hard numbers. Nothing that will split the difference between him and another herald.

Okay so we can assume that he possibly output continental to at most planetary force. Understood.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Another herald has destroyed a solar system by shockwaves of his fight? Do tell.

It... It's like you didn't read my post at all.

Originally posted by Stoic
Okay so we can assume that he possibly output continental to at most planetary force. Understood.

Why would we assume that? Just because we can't assign absurdly high numbers to something doesn't mean we assign absurdly low ones either.

Wait, isn’t that within the Herald tier ballpark? Think on just how large a continent is. The guys that post here use one time feats to make it seem as if that is the average. For example, how often has Black Adam destroyed a continent?

I personally think Herald tier ballpark is much higher than a continent. I mean Didnt Hal just create a supernova in the same series? And recently Hal playing pool ball with planet sized moonships right?

Originally posted by -Pr-
It... It's like you didn't read my post at all.

Why would we assume that? Just because we can't assign absurdly high numbers to something doesn't mean we assign absurdly low ones either.


No, I understood it just fine.

Originally posted by Stoic
Wait, isn’t that within the Herald tier ballpark? Think on just how large a continent is. The guys that post here use one time feats to make it seem as if that is the average. For example, how often has Black Adam destroyed a continent?

Orion's blasts can shift worlds out of their orbit:
https://imgur.com/a/kz6iAjK

When he was fighting something at the moon, the Earth was in danger of being torn apart from his shockwaves (😛 )
https://imgur.com/a/sfDmmmK

That's.....not continental.

Originally posted by Stoic
Wait, isn’t that within the Herald tier ballpark? Think on just how large a continent is. The guys that post here use one time feats to make it seem as if that is the average. For example, how often has Black Adam destroyed a continent?

Sorry, that was on me. I should have specified that I was speaking of the higher herald range. Not low heralds, but the guys near the top.

Originally posted by abhilegend
No, I understood it just fine.

Your reply says otherwise.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Orion's blasts can shift worlds out of their orbit:
https://imgur.com/a/kz6iAjK

When he was fighting something at the moon, the Earth was in danger of being torn apart from his shockwaves (😛 )
https://imgur.com/a/sfDmmmK

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the second one is an obvious, on-panel feat. i'd suggest it's much more meaningful than the solar system fiasco people are crying over. 😂 the first one you weigh the meaning of narration, but that version of orion had some awesome feats. factor in pre-c rules and i'd be willing to take it a face value more often than not.

orion is a beast. always has been. no fan-fic necessary.

Originally posted by leonidas
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the second one is an obvious, on-panel feat. i'd suggest it's much more meaningful than the solar system fiasco people are crying over. 😂 the first one you weigh the meaning of narration, but that version of orion had some awesome feats. factor in pre-c rules and i'd be willing to take it a face value more often than not.

orion is a beast. always has been. no fan-fic necessary.


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The denial is pretty strong when a character flat out said that Orion destroyed the planets and the writer confirmed it himself.

But go on.

Originally posted by leonidas
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the second one is an obvious, on-panel feat. i'd suggest it's much more meaningful than the solar system fiasco people are crying over. 😂 the first one you weigh the meaning of narration, but that version of orion had some awesome feats. factor in pre-c rules and i'd be willing to take it a face value more often than not.

orion is a beast. always has been. no fan-fic necessary.

Yes Orion IS a beast, I just wish that John Byrne had remembered that when he wrote the crossover ' Darkseid vs Galactus' he made O look like a joke.

Originally posted by abhilegend
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The denial is pretty strong when a character flat out said that Orion destroyed the planets and the writer confirmed it himself.

But go on.

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not as strong as the inability to acknowledge that we have no idea how the battle ACTUALLY went down and consequently have no real idea how the system was destroyed though.

but continue pretending you do. 👆

Originally posted by lawest9
Yes Orion IS a beast, I just wish that John Byrne had remembered that when he wrote the crossover ' Darkseid vs Galactus' he made O look like a joke.

different writers see characters differently. it's not PIS--it's simply a different view. one that, given how he viewed superman, probably shouldn't even be very surprising. /shrug

Originally posted by leonidas
different writers see characters differently. it's not PIS--it's simply a different view. one that, given how he viewed superman, probably shouldn't even be very surprising. /shrug
I personally hated it all the same, I've no real problem with Surfer winning but he should have had to work much much harder for it.

i agree 100%. i have no issue saying ss wins either, but it was a very disappointing interpretation. 🙁 but most people know that's probably not the way most writers would see a battle between the 2. i hope....

Thats life and comics. And she is a B itch

Originally posted by leonidas
i agree 100%. i have no issue saying ss wins either, but it was a very disappointing interpretation. 🙁 but most people know that's probably not the way most writers would see a battle between the 2. i hope....
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Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Thats life and comics. And she is a B itch

Unfortunately.

Originally posted by leonidas
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not as strong as the inability to acknowledge that we have no idea how the battle ACTUALLY went down and consequently have no real idea how the system was destroyed though.

but continue pretending you do. 👆


But we do have an idea how the fight went. Just because you're in denial doesn't mean everyone is.

Originally posted by abhilegend
But we do have an idea how the fight went. Just because you're in denial doesn't mean everyone is.

Honest question. Do you believe that having an idea is strong enough to overturn the rest of the events that took place in that arc? Orion was clearly far less powerful than the Golem. How then could he have this prolonged battle against it when he was near wrecked by one assault?