Current Superman vs Worldbreaker Hulk

Originally posted by JBL
Superman caught that black hole before it released and kept it from releasing very simple. That's why he was only talking about pressure because that thing was trying to release.

You know, I wouldn't mind if people were fairly debating the merits of the black hole feat, but I really don't see that at all for the most part. Or even it's relevancy, given that it's not close to being his best strength or durability feat.

Honestly, it looks more and more like the usual happening: A Superman vs someone thread becomes a "Superman ain't shit" thread. The latter isn't productive or useful at all.

i don't understand the complexity of this feat , Superman holds a solar system black hole in his palm, that's it. what's more to it ?

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Seriously, Alberto?
Here Atom refers to it as black hole
https://ibb.co/hgrCzzQ
And here Atom refers to it as black hole again. He also stated one screw-up in triggering the thermocouple switches then the black hole could escape the magnetic field
https://ibb.co/YjY4cLv
Which is exactly what we see here
"You should be able to see the thermocouplers surrounding the main core. Your fine-focus heat vision will trigger them "
https://ibb.co/kghk0L7
Here Superman hits the thermocouplers
https://ibb.co/jkFgHvR
Next panel the main core which was the containment of the blakc hole blows apart
https://ibb.co/k3PSnwx

It was an aritifcal black hole, nothing more. I'm STILL waiting on what Supes grabbed in that panel.....not a single answer on that yet huh 😂

Originally posted by Diesldude
Now why would they need to create a magnetic field if the one around mnemon was still intact? Proof right there that it was no longer intact that’s why they needed to create another one. Damn alberto seems like you agree with us and are arguing against yourself.

LMAO I don't EVER agree with you, And It's Not a strength feat: black holes don't weigh that much, as you're confusing mass with weight. Natural black holes are stronger the smaller they are but mass is still not weight.

This is a hilarious display of Supes stans disregard context in attempt to fit their narrative. They want a Dub soo badly, its painful. 🤣🤦🏾‍♂️ All Supes did was withstanding the gravitational leaks of a developing black hole. Nothing more. But I got a whole lotta time today to dismantle you two on it again. Make the responses good this time

Dudes will the same scan but cant use context and keywords to formulate what's going on. Visual aid be damned and back.

😂

Originally posted by -Pr-
I don't think it's any secret that Alberto is a troll..

@qwerty ummm Pressure isn't weight either.
Weight is a measurement of the pull of gravity towards the center of an object of sufficient size. A black hole's gravity pulls in in itself, stronger than any other object, so they have no WEIGHT when lifted, only their mass -- which is admittedly huge and would weigh millions of times more than our sun... if it were a normal object with normal gravity. But as you love to point out, this is a "black hole."
So Superman isn't holding up the weight of that mass (as all of its gravity is pulling in on itself, AWAY from his hands), he is containing the gravitational forces by keeping his hand closed. Still not a strength feat.

Originally posted by -Pr-
I don't think it's any secret that Alberto is a troll

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
@qwerty ummm Pressure isn't weight either.
Weight is a measurement of the pull of gravity towards the center of an object of sufficient size. A black hole's gravity pulls in in itself, stronger than any other object, so they have no WEIGHT when lifted, only their mass -- which is admittedly huge and would weigh millions of times more than our sun... if it were a normal object with normal gravity. But as you love to point out, this is a "black hole."
So Superman isn't holding up the weight of that mass (as all of its gravity is pulling in on itself, AWAY from his hands), he is containing the gravitational forces by keeping his hand closed. Still not a strength feat.

Comcivine moment

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
It was an aritifcal black hole, nothing more. I'm STILL waiting on what Supes grabbed in that panel.....not a single answer on that yet huh 😂

Originally posted by Magnon
A black hole is created whenever a given quantity of mass is compressed within its Schwarzschild radius. It doesn't matter whether this process takes place "naturally" via collapse under the object's own gravity or "artificially". A black hole is a black hole, artificial or not.

Furthermore, the SMALLER the black hole is the STRONGER the gravitational tidal forces are at its event horizon. If anything, the size of the black hole in question made Superman's feat even more impressive.

Here we see what the containment of that black hole look like
https://ibb.co/hgrCzzQ
And here Atom states one screw-up in triggering the thermocouple switches then the black hole could escape the magnetic field while checking the circuits
https://ibb.co/YjY4cLv
Here we see Atom tell Superman hitting thermocouples/circuits that surrounding the main core which contains the black hole
https://ibb.co/kghk0L7
And Superman hits the thermocouples/circuits
https://ibb.co/jkFgHvR
Then the containment explodes
https://ibb.co/k3PSnwx
And back to Superman and others. They finds out the black hole breaking through
https://ibb.co/3YjwzZM
After that Superman reaching the black hole and the space being warped which indicates the black hole already occurring
https://ibb.co/SB5g8ck
Then Superman successfully catchs it and holds it right before it could be fully released
Finally the writer hammers this issue when Superman and Green Lantern need to create their own magnetic field in order to contain it for a while, Which indicates the generator of magnetic field already gone
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/JLA-1997/Issue-77?id=39343#22
I cant believe I need to explain something that obivious in the comic.....

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
@qwerty ummm Pressure isn't weight either.
Weight is a measurement of the pull of gravity towards the center of an object of sufficient size. A black hole's gravity pulls in in itself, stronger than any other object, so they have no WEIGHT when lifted, only their mass -- which is admittedly huge and would weigh millions of times more than our sun... if it were a normal object with normal gravity. But as you love to point out, this is a "black hole."
So Superman isn't holding up the weight of that mass (as all of its gravity is pulling in on itself, AWAY from his hands), he is containing the gravitational forces by keeping his hand closed. Still not a strength feat.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
LMAO, Again you just proved how desperate you are
Anyway I wii give Magnon more credibility than you
Because like mod and other already aware: Youre just a troll

And yes we see Superman grabbed the black hole on panel. It wasnt leaking, Its a black hole trying to break free and Superman stopping it by using his hands before it could be fully released
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/JLA-1997/Issue-77?id=39343#19

Here we see what the containment of that black hole look like
https://ibb.co/hgrCzzQ
And here Atom states one screw-up in triggering the thermocouple switches then the black hole could escape the magnetic field while checking the circuits
https://ibb.co/YjY4cLv
Here we see Atom tell Superman hitting thermocouples/circuits that surrounding the main core which contains the black hole
https://ibb.co/kghk0L7
And Superman hits the thermocouples/circuits
https://ibb.co/jkFgHvR
Then the containment explodes
https://ibb.co/k3PSnwx
And back to Superman and others. They finds out the black hole breaking through
https://ibb.co/3YjwzZM
After that Superman reaching the black hole and the space being warped which indicates the black hole already occurring
https://ibb.co/SB5g8ck
Then Superman successfully catchs it and holds it right before it could be fully released
Finally the writer hammers this issue when Superman and Green Lantern need to create their own magnetic field in order to contain it for a while, Which indicates the generator of magnetic field already gone
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/JLA-1997/Issue-77?id=39343#22
I cant believe I need to explain something that obivious in the comic.....

LMAO you keep talking about natural black holes while the realize the device you keep showing was created in a lab and very likely never a star, so... none of that has any relevance.
Superman grabbed... the device. On panel. As you have been shown multiple times. The device that held the containment unit and was still intact when all was said and done.
If Superman grabbed an actual black hole, then why was he trying to keep his hands shut, when the gravity should have been pulling his hands (and everything else) in. I'll wait 😂

you can share these debunked feats as many times as you want and I'lll keep repeating myself

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
LMAO you keep talking about natural black holes while the realize the device you keep showing was created in a lab and very likely never a star, so... none of that has any relevance.
Superman grabbed... the device. On panel. As you have been shown multiple times. The device that held the containment unit and was still intact when all was said and done.
If Superman grabbed an actual black hole, then why was he trying to keep his hands shut, when the gravity should have been pulling his hands (and everything else) in. I'll wait 😂

you can share these debunked feats as many times as you want and I'lll keep repeating myself

Originally posted by -Pr-
I don't think it's any secret that Alberto is a troll.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Except it literally said it was a black hole
https://ibb.co/3YjwzZM
And the comic literally shows the black hole was warping the space
https://ibb.co/SB5g8ck
And we literally see what the device look like and it literally blows apart
https://ibb.co/hgrCzzQ
https://ibb.co/k3PSnwx
But whatever, Like I said you are officially a troll. I dont expect you can even admit youre wrong

😂 you keep bringing up the physics... of *natural* black holes. This one was created. In a lab. The containment blows apart. The device does not. We see it at the end of the issue, with the burning hole from Superman's heat vision in it. And post the actual pages next time, Better yet, just stop posting them, they're not backing up your argument any more than the first 12 times you threw them up.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
😂 you keep bringing up the physics... of *natural* black holes. This one was created. In a lab. The containment blows apart. The device does not. We see it at the end of the issue, with the burning hole from Superman's heat vision in it. And post the actual pages next time, Better yet, just stop posting them, they're not backing up your argument any more than the first 12 times you threw them up.

Originally posted by Magnon
A black hole is created whenever a given quantity of mass is compressed within its Schwarzschild radius. It doesn't matter whether this process takes place "naturally" via collapse under the object's own gravity or "artificially". A black hole is a black hole, artificial or not.

Furthermore, the SMALLER the black hole is the STRONGER the gravitational tidal forces are at its event horizon. If anything, the size of the black hole in question made Superman's feat even more impressive.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998

Here we see what the containment of that black hole look like
https://ibb.co/hgrCzzQ
And here Atom states one screw-up in triggering the thermocouple switches then the black hole could escape the magnetic field while checking the circuits
https://ibb.co/YjY4cLv
Here we see Atom tell Superman hitting thermocouples/circuits that surrounding the main core which contains the black hole
https://ibb.co/kghk0L7
And Superman hits the thermocouples/circuits
https://ibb.co/jkFgHvR
Then the containment explodes
https://ibb.co/k3PSnwx
And back to Superman and others. They finds out the black hole breaking through
https://ibb.co/3YjwzZM
After that Superman reaching the black hole and the space being warped which indicates the black hole already occurring
https://ibb.co/SB5g8ck
Then Superman successfully catchs it and holds it right before it could be fully released
Finally the writer hammers this issue when Superman and Green Lantern need to create their own magnetic field in order to contain it for a while, Which indicates the generator of magnetic field already gone
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/JLA-1997/Issue-77?id=39343#22
I cant believe I need to explain something that obivious in the comic.....

Originally posted by -Pr-
I don't think it's any secret that Alberto is a troll. If people choose to engage with him, that's their business.

Same with the likes of JBL, Mr. Mind, Broly etc.

Albert yiu didn't respond to this

Originally posted by h1a8
All black holes are the same size (singularities). They only differ in mass or gravitational force field strength.

The comic states that Superman grabbed it right before the black hole FULLY (not partially) released. 😕

Your argument is that it was a, synthetic black hole and not a natural one.

Well it had the power to destroy the solar system (it destroyed solar systems already). That would mean it is one of the most powerful black holes in the galaxy (since the weakest natural ones cant do that). In other words, the synthetic black hole > average black hole.

Your next argument is that it was mentioned as the size of a speck of dust. Well ALL black holes are singularities and have been described in science as the size of a speck of dust, grain of sand, atom, etc. Also, if it can destroy a solar system then its size doesn't matter anymore.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
And better yet

Ad nausem again, still doesn't prove a thing. if you use your strength to fight back against the PULL of gravity why are you PRESSING your hands together instead of trying to PULL them apart? Go ahead and explain that, I'll wait.

Originally posted by h1a8
Albert yiu didn't respond to this

Your argument is that it was a, synthetic black hole and not a natural one.

Well it had the power to destroy the solar system (it destroyed solar systems already). That would mean it is one of the most powerful black holes in the galaxy (since the weakest natural ones cant do that). In other words, the synthetic black hole > average black hole.

Your next argument is that it was mentioned as the size of a speck of dust. Well ALL black holes are singularities and have been described in science as the size of a speck of dust, grain of sand, atom, etc. Also, if it can destroy a solar system then its size doesn't matter anymore.

Keyword. Before.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Ad nausem again, still doesn't prove a thing. if you use your strength to fight back against the PULL of gravity why are you PRESSING your hands together instead of trying to PULL them apart? Go ahead and explain that, I'll wait.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
black holes don't weigh that much, as you're confusing mass with weight. Natural black holes are stronger the smaller they are but mass is still not weight.

I’m gonna be civil and not respond to your personal attacks. Mods have warned everyone already in your other dumb thread. But This here is one of the dumbest things anyone has ever posted on kmc. It’s right up there with your other stupid posts.

Stop butchering science and stick to lying and misinterpreting comics.