Originally posted by carver9
It's nearly taking all of my power to hold him...https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-0cb042e75b7b2151954a3286bec98196
"She can choke him out? Why isn't she leading"...
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-e970fa2ad5ecb0cbf0855f90a7566481
I guess you miss the part where she gets her powers from another dimension no ones understand.
Originally posted by Juntai
Absorbs and redirects Superman's energy back at him. Exactly what I said. Something Colossus can't do - Make Superman punch himself.He was being disoriented by the tidal effect and Deathstroke simply knocked him off balance, before being casually knocked away and the suit destroyed.
This is not a win, and he didn't hurt Superman with any strikes.
So we agree the shield didn't amp Deathstroke punches and kicks? That's all you have to say. Now let's move on. Also, Colossus strength>>>Deathstroke. Get off this topic.
Originally posted by carver9I never said it did.
So we agree the shield didn't amp Deathstroke punches and kicks? That's all you have to say. Now let's move on. Also, Colossus strength>>>Deathstroke. Get off this topic.
What's your point?
Colossus can't cause a tidal effect and make Superman effectively hurt himself.
Colossus strength, like Deathstroke is also insufficient to stopping Superman.
Originally posted by carver9That is not how she was choking any of the characters. She was filling their bodies with her extradimensional energy/cloud.
Ok. So everyone that get their powers from different dimension can choke Superman out? Let me know so that I can gather a list. Also, she was PHYSICALLY choking him to death.
Originally posted by carver9Fair enough, looking back in this one instance she didn't. I'll give you that one.
She was strangling him. Had her hands around his neck. She didn't get inside of him in the scans I posted. If she did, show me.
However, it's also after Luthor upgraded her and a few of the others, as he mentions in that very issue to Sinestro, he gave each of them 'the powers of a GOD"
Originally posted by Juntai
Fair enough, looking back in this one instance she didn't. I'll give you that one.However, it's also after Luthor upgraded her and a few of the others, as he mentions in that very issue to Sinestro, 'the powers of a GOD"
She was made whole. No power increase. I also feel confident she won't be benching planets anytime soon. I didn't even want this debate. You started this by bringing up a character that isn't in this thread. The last time Cap fought Hulk, Hulk gave Thor a concussion with a single hit and also punched Cap Adamantium and Vibranium shield (vibranium absorbs energy) and gave him a nose bleed. Cap then ran...
Then we have Hulk again taking on the Avengers, including Cap, with Cap being irrelevant yet again.
https://m.imgur.com/gallery/fUct8FH
Like I said, 20 years, you won't find a single showing of Cap holding his own against Hulk, OR, Hulk just being physically restrained by anyone and there have been plenty of encounters between the 2.
Originally posted by carver9You mean besides Cap punching him out in 2007?
She was made whole. No power increase. I also feel confident she won't be benching planets anytime soon. I didn't even want this debate. You started this by bringing up a character that isn't in this thread. The last time Cap fought Hulk, Hulk gave Thor a concussion with a single hit and also punched Cap Adamantium and Vibranium shield (vibranium absorbs energy) and gave him a nose bleed. Cap then ran...Then we have Hulk again taking on the Avengers, including Cap, with Cap being irrelevant yet again.
https://m.imgur.com/gallery/fUct8FH
Like I said, 20 years, you won't find a single showing of Cap holding his own against Hulk, OR, Hulk just being physically restrained by anyone and there have been plenty of encounters between the 2.
Thanos eye blasted Hulk down in Infinity.
Thing punched Hulk out.
Zues punched out Hulk.
Cap punched Hulk out.
Red Hulk beat Hulk a few different times, even snapped his arm once.
Sentry while trying to lose still put Hulk down.
Can't recall his name, but in the mid-2000s a skrull punched Hulk out.
This isnt even trying to get in and nitpick random single panels and claim them as some weird type of having a victory like you try to do with Superman, and all in fairly recent history. And this is just random events from the top of my head. I'm probably forgetting at least a 100 more. This dude spent a few years ducking undead FBI agent dudes. lol.
Even in the movies the dudes a ****in punching bag. lol.
Superman's floor is where these guys are, and his ceiling is a whole level Hulk doesn't and can't fight at. A place where guys like Dr Manhattan are World Forger believe they would ultimately lose to Superman.
Originally posted by JuntaiSuperman holds back he knows that he’s more powerful. Just look at he handled the guy beating up on black adam. Or how he handled Shazam and supergirl when he got serious. Or how he knocked out barbatos.
I like how picks the panels right before Supes says he hasnt even been trying because he doesnt want to hurt him, then knocks him through a building and destroys the Ikon suit. lol.
The thing is Superman is never serious at first and always rather have the other guy see things right instead of knocking him out. It’s proven that Superman holds back and everything depends on his mindset. He couldn’t fly off the planet but once he knew that he was gonna die and WF would succeed he leapt off the planet. Why? how? He was much weaker than his first attempt where he failed. This is because Superman is never giving his all even when he has no choice. Under special circumstances when it’s a job for Superman and he’s already exhausted every option then the S shines.
Originally posted by JuntaiSamson and Namor also punched out Hulk, he is not unbeatable.
Thanos eye blasted Hulk down in Infinity.
Thing punched Hulk out.
Zues punched out Hulk.
Cap punched Hulk out.
Red Hulk beat Hulk a few different times, even snapped his arm once.
Sentry while trying to lose still put Hulk down.
Can't recall his name, but in the mid-2000s a skrull punched Hulk out.This isnt even trying to get in and nitpick random single panels and claim them as some weird type of having a victory like you try to do with Superman, and all in fairly recent history. And this is just random events from the top of my head. I'm probably forgetting at least a 100 more. This dude spent a few years ducking undead FBI agent dudes. lol.
Even in the movies the dudes a ****in punching bag. lol.
Superman's floor is where these guys are, and his ceiling is a whole level Hulk doesn't and can't fight at. A place where guys like Dr Manhattan are World Forger believe they would ultimately lose to Superman.
Originally posted by Juntai
Thanos eye blasted Hulk down in Infinity.
Thing punched Hulk out.
Zues punched out Hulk.
Cap punched Hulk out.
Red Hulk beat Hulk a few different times, even snapped his arm once.
Sentry while trying to lose still put Hulk down.
Can't recall his name, but in the mid-2000s a skrull punched Hulk out.This isnt even trying to get in and nitpick random single panels and claim them as some weird type of having a victory like you try to do with Superman, and all in fairly recent history. And this is just random events from the top of my head. I'm probably forgetting at least a 100 more. This dude spent a few years ducking undead FBI agent dudes. lol.
Even in the movies the dudes a ****in punching bag. lol.
Superman's floor is where these guys are, and his ceiling is a whole level Hulk doesn't and can't fight at. A place where guys like Dr Manhattan are World Forger believe they would ultimately lose to Superman.
Thanos eye Blasted him and he was still awake. You mentioning that is like me bringing up Orion blasting Supes. It happened, Superman fell but he was still active.
Thing punched out a mind controlled Hulk. Doesn't count.
Zeus did beat Hulk. I'll give you that.
Cap didn't beat Hulk. Post the scan and issue number.
Red Hulm absorbed his power and beat him. This is the same reason I didn't bring up Parasite raping Supes.
Show me Sentry koing Hulk.
Lol... keep believing Superman have a higher sealing. Like I said, he's been dropped more times than any Herald, ANY. People bash Thor but Superman has been knocked out FAR more times than Thor. Let's not even mention Hulk here. Mongul, Kalibak, Red Cloud (lol), no one mentioned there is physically ocerpowering Hulk.
Originally posted by carver9
Thanos eye Blasted him and he was still awake. You mentioning that is like me bringing up Orion blasting Supes. It happened, Superman fell but he was still active.Thing punched out a mind controlled Hulk. Doesn't count.
Zeus did beat Hulk. I'll give you that.
Cap didn't beat Hulk. Post the scan and issue number.
Red Hulm absorbed his power and beat him. This is the same reason I didn't bring up Parasite raping Supes.
Show me Sentry koing Hulk.
Lol... keep believing Superman have a higher sealing. Like I said, he's been dropped more times than any Herald, ANY. People bash Thor but Superman has been knocked out FAR more times than Thor. Let's not even mention Hulk here. Mongul, Kalibak, Red Cloud (lol), no one mentioned there is physically ocerpowering Hulk.
He eye blasted him out of the fight. You want to bring up being sucker-hit by a tractor and popping back up and still fighting. Hulk was crawling around on the ground. lol.
Red Hulk breaking his arm, you say its using his own power, but want to point out the gravity sheath making Superman hit himself.
Sentry beat Hulk back into Banner while trying to lose. lol.
Hypocrisy is what this is called.
Everything you've argued through here is laughable.
And here's Cap beating the **** out of Hulk in a completely one sided stomp. I guess Spiderman punched him once too when he's going down.
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But hey, Red Cloud amped with the powers of a god by Luthor choked Superman and still didn't put him down. And deathstroke knocked him off balance while he was disoriented from the tidal effect. lolz, rite?
Superman does get roughed up occasionally. and he can be taken off guard if someone has more power than he's anticipating, but Kalibak is a New God. Mongol is a galactic threat.
And that's still Superman's floor. He's still holding back while playing Superhero. He's beat both of these characters by spinning a circle real fast. Hell, he beat Darkseid and an army of parademons and bfred them by spinning in a circle fast in the middle of a whole different fight.
Originally posted by lawest9
Don't play games brother, you know when. and where it happened
Show me.
