Hulk vs versatility 1

Started by leonidas18 pages

Ok leo.

I'm not going to let this go, since you're trying to be slippery in this entire thread, get pigenholed, not prove anything, then right back to unprovable random shit.

Do you agree that Hulk's blood would run faster through his veins, and that would make Magneto lose control?

Or is your "I agree 100%" more like 70%, and you don't agree with that part?

😂

slippery? anyway, i think his blood running faster is nonsensical. the answer to your question is i disagree 100% with that statement. if i told you i didn't even see his second post and thought i was quoting his first one, you'd tell me i'm being slippery though, so, again, to answer your question--i disagree 100% with that.

so answer my question--hulk is going to be a trophy. his strength and durability can't get him free, even at wbh levels. does hulk remain a trophy forever or is there a chance his body adapts to the situation and lets him escape?

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Why would it even matter how strong they are? They would have zero leverage.

At best, Hulk would be able to pull off a . thunderclap

Hulk resisting should be the issue. He's not just holding a regular person up, he's holding the strongest being on the planet up in the air. Hulk trying to break free would be an issue. Any of the people I named above trying to break free of it should be an issue.

Do you think Magneto can hold Thor up in the air by his blood and drain him?

Originally posted by Diesldude
I think the hulk’s stupid power is that with enough anger he can increase his healing ability, get stronger. If the iron in his blood is being controlled, his biceps won’t help but the heart will sense that his blood isn’t being pumped the right way and would I believe like his biceps muscles, will get stronger just to push the blood with enough force to correct it’s direction. Maybe I’m underselling mags but this is how I can see hulk overcoming this instead of evolving a new superpower.
Whether the blood is stationary, moving slower or moving faster [which Magneto can also do, btw -- it's not a matter of slowing it down] is irrelevant, because he's simply lifting the entire body up in the air. Magneto can grab and alter the position of things that are moving far faster, slower, or not at all. He can can grab him by the liver, or heart, or multiple organs, and just simply suspend him in the air while the blood is moving normally.

Originally posted by leonidas
😂

slippery? anyway, i think his blood running faster is nonsensical. the answer to your question is i disagree 100% with that statement.

Ok.

so answer my question--hulk is going to be a trophy. his strength and durability can't get him free, even at wbh levels. does hulk remain a trophy forever or is there a chance his body adapts to the situation and lets him escape?
This we already discussed two pages ago.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Why would it even matter how strong they are? They would have zero leverage.

At best, Hulk would be able to pull off a . thunderclap.

Also, this isn't telekinesis where they will be holding Hulk by concentrating on a certain part of the body. Mags is literally lifting him through his blood which runs throughout his entire body.

Aaaaand yes, he could hold Superman......if Superman didn't have flight. Or Odin.....if Odin didn't have a plethora of powers to counteract it.

Ww-yes, oh wait, she can fly as well so probably not.

But Mongul, Juggs and Thanos would be same as Hulk. If Thanos didn't blast him or mindwipe him or use magic, or power cosmic etc...

Because page bump

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Aaaaand yes, he could hold Superman......if Superman didn't have flight.
The fact that people ask about Superman as if to imply "you just hate Hulk" and then seeing me actually agree that this would work on Superman, too, if you just leave him with strength, durability and "adaptability" and there's nothing he'd be able to do about it [other than clap] must be quite the mind-blown for some people.

Does somebody have scans of Hulk doing wonky things handy? Just wanna get a good idea of his weird on panel showings. Off the top of my head i recall the overcoming bfr from some high tech glass or some such...

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Because page bump

If someone is holding you by your blood, what difference does flight make? I don't understand. You're being held by your blood which basically stops blood flow, etc... that alone should stop any thought of flight, right? Blood flow to the brain, heart, etc... so again, if Magneto put up a shield and just blood controlled everyone I've named, there's no defense to that, right?

Originally posted by carver9
Goom turned Hulk into the size of a mouse and Hulk body grew back by itself to normal...

https://ibb.co/nbBdcGq

@celey

Originally posted by carver9
Survives a gun that rewrites molecules on a subatomic level...

https://m.imgur.com/DU4bdSH

His powers allow him to withstand zero atmosphere environment...

https://m.imgur.com/PuLa1Bc

His body counter a weapon that paralyzes the internal motor response...

https://m.imgur.com/wteQyuf

This...

https://m.imgur.com/6XhtsPu

Toxin built to specifically kill him and his body resist it...

https://m.imgur.com/WwrJSyw
https://m.imgur.com/pIBgyno
https://m.imgur.com/qRjMIXj
https://m.imgur.com/0YntfUK

His body resist being turned into stone...

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11121/111213429/5566535-4908462377-47981.jpg

Turned to glass and resisted...

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11134/111345264/6307461-6306691-3156622-6631681194-savag.jpg

He was even warped into the size of a mouse and his body countered it and he was back to his normal size in a couple of panels.

With that said, Magneto blood crap will work in the beginning but Hulk will resist it in no time and knock him clean out.

Oh yeah.. Thats a good one. Wow, what the phuk? Got more?

The fact that people ask about Superman as if to imply "you just hate Hulk" and then seeing me actually agree that this would work on Superman, too, if you just leave him with strength, durability and "adaptability" and there's nothing he'd be able to do about it [other than clap] must be quite the mind-blown for some people.

doesn't blow my mind at all, though i think that's the first time you've said it. i would disagree with this, btw. i think he would break free eventually, like hulk would. i think they are the only 2 characters that could do that.

Originally posted by Philosophía
Whether the blood is stationary, moving slower or moving faster [which Magneto can also do, btw -- it's not a matter of slowing it down] is irrelevant, because he's simply lifting the entire body up in the air. Magneto can grab and alter the position of things that are moving far faster, slower, or not at all. He can can grab him by the liver, or heart, or multiple organs, and just simply suspend him in the air while the blood is moving normally.

👆 Crap had forgotten that iron is found in every cell of the body.

Note to myself, to wait until my internal clock is adjusted from switching from nights to days. Or just post vampire hours.

Originally posted by leonidas
doesn't blow my mind at all, though i think that's the first time you've said it. i would disagree with this, btw. i think he would break free eventually, like hulk would. i think they are the only 2 characters that could do that.
I'm not talking about you specifically -- there's a certain guy here that keeps having Superman on his lips [and other chars] as if this is out of a bias or something. I'm being consistent.

Well, we've reached a point where you think Superman can do something I do not, so there's that, lol.

Originally posted by Diesldude
👆 Crap had forgotten that iron is found in every cell of the body.

Note to myself, to wait until my internal clock is adjusted from switching from nights to days. Or just post vampire hours.

Speaking of waking up, I will have the two matches soon sent to you. Be ready!

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Oh yeah.. Thats a good one. Wow, what the phuk? Got more?

😂

celey, you just justified this whole crazy thread. 😂

Originally posted by Philosophía
Ok leo.

I'm not going to let this go, since you're trying to be slippery in this entire thread, get pigenholed, not prove anything, then right back to unprovable random shit.

[b]Do you agree that Hulk's blood would run faster through his veins, and that would make Magneto lose control?

Or is your "I agree 100%" more like 70%, and you don't agree with that part? [/B]

I really don't think this even fits the argument of Hulk adapting to counter Magneto regardless of it working or not. Unless you're going to include dynamic strength, which I do not.

Originally posted by carver9
I think this is more complicated than controlling blood and I feel confident Magneto isn't overpowering Hulk control over his own body...

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11137/111378504/6828547-hulk%202.jpg
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11137/111378504/6828549-hulk%203.jpg
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11137/111378504/6828550-hulk%204.jpg
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11137/111378504/6828551-hulk%205.jpg

Also, I can't think of a single person who have ripped through more shields than the Hulk.

@celey...

His body parts are doing things on their own. He was even controlling his heart and it was out of his body.

Originally posted by Delta1938
I really don't think this even fits the argument of Hulk adapting to counter Magneto regardless of it working or not. Unless you're going to include dynamic strength, which I do not.
Treat this thread as an exercise in fan-fiction where you have to imagine how you'd write it for Hulk to counter scenarios that he obviously doesn't have a provable counter for and it's a much better read.

Well, we've reached a point where you think Superman can do something I do not, so there's that, lol.

truth. ultimately i think it's because i make allowances in matches that you don't. i don't know how to explain some of the things hulk has done. i have no clue how to explain how superman does some of the sh!t he's done. i just don't think those types of wtf feats can be totally thrown away when there several examples of them. but the problem is they don't fit vs matches very well. i mean how the phukc do you explain superman holding a black hole, or hulk growing back to normal size because....he's angry. 😂

but the feats have happened so i prefer to make the allowance for them. /shrug

Originally posted by leonidas
😂

celey, you just justified this whole crazy thread. 😂


I did?

*shrug*